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Thread: It's we Rangers that are the TRUE Jedi

RohmEnari
Fri May 21, 2004 1:56 pm
#14






Enoshima wrote:

Myself and a guildie (Reyune), were sitting in a cantina one day before we took a friend to the warren. The conversation went something like this.


Dancer: Oh, your a Ranger too?

Hon: Yes I am.

Dancer: Wow, your the only 2 Rangers I have ever seen. In fact I have only been playing 2 weeks and have senn way more Jedi than Rangers.

Hon: I would believe that to be true.

Dancer: So what do you do as a Ranger?

Hon: Ummm, it's more of a lifestyle thing

Reyune: I'm back, sorry had to get a drink.

Hon runs outside to avoid the interrorgation......






And left me to deal with the questions! Schmuck! hehe. My answers to her questions...

Dancer: So what kind of skills do rangers have?

Reyune: Good question.

Dancer: Uhmm...so you can track things right?

Reyune: In theory.

Dancer: But you have some cool traps don't you?

Reyune: Define "cool".

Dancer: I saw someone have a really big tent out once.

Reyune: Yeah, cool looking wasn't it?

Dancer: Yeah it was!

Reyune: Too bad that is all it has going for it.

Dancer: I'm confused. Why are you a ranger then if nothing in your profession really works?

Reyune: I'm a stubborn, ignorant jackass that also happens to be a glutton for punishment.

Dancer: ...................oh.






As you can see I was totally unprepared for that line of questioning. I am usually not ever talked to by anyone, except friends from day 1 on Talus, and occasionally "can you train me" person I run into when I come into town.


Plus you can tell the Rangers from the rangers. A Ranger will always greet another Ranger, and get the same respect in return. When Ranger greets a ranger, you get asked for a macro on how to camp.


I have a seen a few other "Master" Rangers in my galaxy. But I am not sure if they were around 5 minutes later or not.


I know we are rare, simply for the fact that 2 of my guildies are rangers and I don't ever seen them.

Truly sorry I have not been on much lately to hang with you bro. Just haven't had much motivation to log in and do stuff when I get home from work. It's been too nice outside lately for me to be inside in front of the computer. But Jekker and Odano and Sharay all said hi and we wish you a safe journey back to the states.









Your friendly neighborhood Ranger,


Reyune


Tqnz
Sat May 22, 2004 12:15 am
#15

I had my novice Ranger when I did this I think (though it would be a better story if I was still trying to get it).


Mr. MasterRanger (forget his name) appeared infront of the Theed Starport. I said to him, 'you're not so and so the Master Ranger are you?' He said 'I am'. Then I said. 'Well, a Master Ranger needs a tribute' and then I set off about 20 fireworks exclaiming how awesome and respectful Rangers are.


He thought it was hilarious, and I hope I made his day! Rangers are great even though the profession has its problems, and to this day when ever I see a Ranger I try to strike up a conversation with them. I'm still a novice, and really don't want to give it up, but I may have to in the near future, but will allways be one at heart.





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Almagill
Sat May 22, 2004 3:12 pm
#16

Sat in camp on top of a hill on one of those 'dark' planets (Rori, I think), healing up after meeting some of the locals and getting shot to b*ggery and back.

See a little dot scoot past the edge of my radar, stop, turn and come straight in towards me.

Expecting one of the 'mature' professions to turn up and rag on me for having no PvP skills and not being uber I was well surprised to find a Jedi Padwan speederbiking his way into camp.

Me: "Are you a j...."
Him: "YOU'RE A RANGER? COOL!"
Me: "you're a je...."
Him: "I always wanted to be a ranger, but I got a holo and had to go commando instead"
Me: "but, but, you're a jed..."

and then he scooted out of camp again before I got a chance to /exam him or take a note of his darned name!

So, there you have it. From the horses mouth.

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kalidor187
Sun May 23, 2004 6:34 am
#17


Hey all You've probly never seen me post before, I only occasionally post in a development forum to put my two cents in, but I check in here frequently. Anyways, I've played a Master Ranger on Starsider for about seven months now and this article really hit home and I felt compelled to post. I think THIS thread is the heart of the "direction" forRangers;I'm sure anyone who has had a "Master Ranger" title above their heads for more than a few days can relate to any of these stories and the answer to why people react to us the way they do is what we should enhance our profession upon. Here's my impression:


- Any young or non-L33t player feels safe around us. For one, we're not a threat to them; we've invested 140 of our 250 skill points in something that is totally harmless in the PVP world. But at the same time, it shows that we've been around the block more than few times to get the experience to get there.


- While PVP is consentual, only a Ranger can shelter another player from the dangers of the wild. Even though conceal is bugged, there is no delay to conceal another player when revealed (*knocks on wood*) and, although it may be a pain in the butt, a Master Ranger canlead any newbie player from one side of dath to the other on foot without being incapped. Fact.


- We are by game design modest players... and everyone knows it. Harvesting avian meat can be profitable, but anyone looking to make money will choose another profession. Anyone looking to solo any mob in the game and farm loot will choose another profession. Anyone looking to power-PVP will choose another profession. This eliminates certain types of gamers from ever considering beinga Ranger outside of hologrinding. I use the atmosphere in this forum to prove my point.


- We are an oddity. Most players just can't resistheading towardsthat huge camp site silhouette on the horizon out in the middle of nowhere. Some because they've never been in one more than once or twice, most because a Ranger camp symbolizes a safe haven and friendly welcome. I remember someone posting in this forum somewhere that they were waiting to get the ability that would make people say "I wish we had a Ranger in the group!" Well, you probly don't hear it because you're a Ranger and already there. Players consider themselves lucky to happen upon a Ranger that can point them in the direction of something they're hunting, give them a safe place to heal, or hide their wounded character for the journey home.


Sorry if this is getting a little long I think that's a pretty good breakdown of the Ranger stereotype, as others see us. But the point of the post is that that is what we need to build upon, not better traps or "invisibility" camo kits so we have a use in PVP. The Ranger ethos is the same in any world, whether he carries a longbow, a musket, or a T21. A Ranger is an explorer,guide,survivalist, and aprotector of the weak and ignorant. Here's my two cents on how to improve the profession.


-Give us a tool, such as macrobinoculars, to increase our track range.


- Impose a guaranteed "no fail" level for concealment/mask scent breaks. 10 or 15% of the camouflage skill would be great. (ie if a Ranger's camouflage skill is 100, then creature levels 10 or 15 and below would have no chance of breaking it)


- I'm happy with the hunting line. We get bonuses to hit creatures and we have droids and food buffs that can increase harvesting further.


- Let the Hi-Tech Field Base heal battle fatigue!


And here's my two BIGGEST suggestions and I think they're good ones...


- Let Ranger have a group terrain negotiation bonus when leading a group. It's a pathfinding skill, not a tactical skill. Maneuvering fire and support elements is tactical, moving from point A to point B is walking. (Believe me I know, I'm an Infantry squad leader in real life).


- GET RID OF THE TRAPPING LINE ALTOGETHER! We're only going to go into a rebalance system if new traps are introduced, and it could potentially introduce a harmful player genre if they ever actually become useful. A Ranger is a Ranger, a hunter is a hunter, a Ranger does not necessarily have to be a hunter. Instead, introduce an HERBAL HEALING branch to replace it. Medicines that can be crafted with resources that can be foraged (that's a skill we don't use much...) I'm not talking stim-D strength, just enough to survive. Minor heals and cure poisons/disease. Think about it, you know deep down what a Ranger truly is. Would trapping or healing better suit that role...


Hope I didn't bore you. Had to get that off my chest I was a little inspired by the stories of the rare and elusive Ranger
Diaron_HCaor
Sun May 23, 2004 8:09 pm
#18

Good stuff kalidor... I myself have become re-invigorated in my role as Master Ranger over the past couple of weeks in reading through the forums and finally beginning to post my thoughts.


Many a day has come in frustration where I thought it was time to lay my Wookie MR to rest and just start over with something else. I resisted...


Someone suggested that I drop my MR title so I wasn't losing face when people asked me to haul in 10k+ of the harvest du jour and had to say no since I'm horrible at combat and would never be able to fulfill the order... I did that for a couple of days and went hunting with a couple of guys on Dath... they assumed I was a noob since I was workin on novice fencer and were readily STUNNED when i proceeded to harvest twice as much as they did on every kill... both these guys were TKMs and didnt need me for anything... but i gladly used camokits and /conceal on them throughout the hunt and they were thanking me for the good time in the end...


All of this plus the Great Ranger Meet this weekend has brought life back into my feelings for this game and the community that shapes it. I'll prolly maintain my character on Wanderhome just so I can work him into another MR in the coming months.


Lannaliak, Tarquinas-Dantooine-Holocron City (Master Ranger/Scout)


Diaron HCaor, Wanderhome-wanderer (Nov Scout/Brawler/Medic/Artisan)


Fred_Skinner
Sun May 23, 2004 8:47 pm
#19


Use the camo Luke.





Frederick Skinner
Antarian Ranger, Ranger(0030), Master Rifleman, CH(4214)
Ranger is not a profession. It's a lifestyle.


DND_Cas
Mon May 24, 2004 4:29 am
#20






Fred_Skinner wrote:


Use the camo Luke.








Lol


From the upcoming parody of SWG named HolosonlygotoneBalls:


"I see your camo is as useless as mine"






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Tzorukt
Mon May 24, 2004 9:09 pm
#21

I've been a Ranger for as long as I can remember, and I've been content throughout. I've had the same exclamations from other players who can't believe their eyes when they see it, which always leads to a sense of pride.


Recently, I've had a friend take up the game, and so I decided to start a new character on a new server, to play and develop from scratch alongside him. I've opted to try a different career path, but it's been *so* hard to resist workingon the same skills I've got on my Ranger, since I'm just so used to it, and it really suits my playstyle so well. Since Beta, I knew I wanted to play a Ranger, and now I'm struggling to play something different.


I have to agree with everyone, when they say that playing a Ranger is almost like a frame of mind. It's the mindset, not the skillpoints, that matter.


Oorrot


Massadonious
Tue May 25, 2004 1:11 am
#22

Very true. I started out as a Marskman, but Scout was the first thing I mastered. I actually enjoyed the harvesting, and everything to do with the scouting life. Ranger seemed like a natural fit.


Plus, the stares and comments you get when opening a field base for people who haven't seen it before.





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heapum
Tue May 25, 2004 5:00 am
#23

I have only known two ranger the entire time I have played SWG (since second day of launch). One was my RL brother and the other was a guy I know in an old guild I used to be in. Rnagers are rare and capture the mystique of the jedi better then the jedi do right now. I have actually ran over a jedi with my swoop while comming back from a mission once.


I am also hologrinding ranger for jedi at the moment and combined with rifle you guys own the wilds. Also rangers can do what no jedi will ever be able to do, crawl faster then the average player.


Calculus_Entropy
Tue May 25, 2004 5:22 am
#24


What do little Rangers have to do with Jedi? Wakka Wakka Wakka


Now for the official apology:



  1. I am sorry I said that, and

  2. I am sorry it took so long to come up with.

Everyone, quit staring at me!


Message Edited by Calculus_Entropy on 05-25-2004 09:55 AM



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Fred_Skinner
Tue May 25, 2004 6:21 am
#25

I think someone needs a vacation



Frederick Skinner
Antarian Ranger, Ranger(0030), Master Rifleman, CH(4214)
Ranger is not a profession. It's a lifestyle.


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