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Thread: Loot WITHOUT serial numbers...
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Nemo, I think they want to know about all loot that does not have a serial #. Why would you want to loot the white cubes if they have no stats and therefore no use? I think it is a bug, and they are trying to track it down.
It has been pointed out that white cubes are not worthless. I agree...I was referring to the cubes with no stats (I had heard that no white cubes had stats, I guessI heard wrong
). If the white cubes have no stats, do they have any affect on the weapon you are crafting (other than filler, and if the don't affect the stats of the weapons, are they really that useful?).
Nemo0 wrote:
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Nemo, I think they want to know about all loot that does not have a serial #. Why would you want to loot the white cubes if they have no stats and therefore no use? I think it is a bug, and they are trying to track it down.
It has been pointed out that white cubes are not worthless. I agree...I was referring to the cubes with no stats (I had heard that no white cubes had stats, I guessI heard wrong
The white cubes have no stats. They are used in the Geonosian schematics to make a standard item. Using colored cubes enhances the stats of the item. For example, you can use a white cube in a DXR6B to get the normal stats. Using yellow cubes in the DXR6B means you get a bit of extra damage (+10 or so). The normal rifle is extremely useful but using yellow cubes is even better. It's like using Nym's loot to make weapons. The white cubes are the standard, the colored cubes add a bit extra. The white cubes are a lot more common, though (I have been known to get 50 white cubes in a night whereas I rarely geteven 10 colored ones).
This is why I don't craft! Anyway, can you make a schematic for a rifle using the Yellow cubes and then make a factory run using white cubes while retaining the stats of the yellow cube rifle? Or is this only possible if you have cubes with no serial numbers, but are the same color (color is the key to this question)?
Jedi_Titus, with the White Cube serials, are you talking about older or newer cubes? Back when the caves were uber camped, I heard a lot of people mentioning serials. But when I went there recently, I didn't notice a single serialed white cube (with about 100-150 looted cubes in a couple of days). I did end up with a few red, green, and yellow cubes but those all had serials. I thought it was a bit odd but the shear number of them made me think that it must have been changed. Either the bug is extremely rampant or they might have recently changed it. But it is definately worth finding out (any chance the Devs would answer a small question about them, Calc?). If it makes any difference, I was leading an almost full group (people like getting the extra xp from a big group and I like having some killing power).
Lythender Nirou
Master Ranger/Master Squad Leader
Eclipse Server
Rancor Bile
All types of rancors (around the Singing Mountain)
Sunrunner
Message Edited by Direpath on 05-21-2004 09:31 PM
High Frequency Vibro Motor
Nym's Procurate Lok
Nym goon
Bria
on a side note, that after I loged off and back on the next day the vibro motors had serial numbers, where they didn't the day before.
Message Edited by Raotek on 05-22-2004 03:19 AM
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
...This is why I don't craft! Anyway, can you make a schematic for a rifle using the Yellow cubes and then make a factory run using white cubes while retaining the stats of the yellow cube rifle? Or is this only possible if you have cubes with no serial numbers, but are the same color (color is the key to this question)?
Master Ranger/Master Squad Leader
Eclipse Server
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
This is why I don't craft! Anyway, can you make a schematic for a rifle using the Yellow cubes and then make a factory run using white cubes while retaining the stats of the yellow cube rifle? Or is this only possible if you have cubes with no serial numbers, but are the same color (color is the key to this question)?
Jedi_Titus, with the White Cube serials, are you talking about older or newer cubes? Back when the caves were uber camped, I heard a lot of people mentioning serials. But when I went there recently, I didn't notice a single serialed white cube (with about 100-150 looted cubes in a couple of days). I did end up with a few red, green, and yellow cubes but those all had serials. I thought it was a bit odd but the shear number of them made me think that it must have been changed. Either the bug is extremely rampant or they might have recently changed it. But it is definately worth finding out (any chance the Devs would answer a small question about them, Calc?). If it makes any difference, I was leading an almost full group (people like getting the extra xp from a big group and I like having some killing power).
Lythender Nirou
Master Ranger/Master Squad Leader
Eclipse Server
For the schematic: If the loot has a serial then to make anything with your manufacturing schematic the components you put into the factory must have identical serials with the schematic. So if you have a lot of 5 yellow cubes once those 5 cubes are gone any schematic you made with them is now worthless because you need that item to product the finished product. That is why the devs are conserned with the non-serialed loot. If I get1 non-serialed yellow cube I could make 1 schematic for 1000 sword cores tha used yellow cubes. I'd have to get 1000 yellow cubes but the serial wouldn't matter anymore and I could make a huge amount of scythes from 1 scythe schematic use with those core. Normally you can get a maximum of 2 scythesschematic use (4 scythes total for the 2 use schematic). I believe the color would matter, but I've never tested that. Make sense?
The white cubes will allow you to make a geo item (cores or weapon). Without a cube (any color) you can't make them. There is no bonus in the white cube... it is just your standard cube. Green cubes give a boost to condition so you get a little more use out of the item, but nothing else is effected, and as everyone knows yellow cubes add to max damage, but they are much rarer than green or white in my experience (not that green is really plentiful). Red cubes are the newest and reduce HAM cost. I haven't figured out where they'd be most useful yet.
My cubes are around a 3 weeks old, so it IS possible that the white cubes have changed. Looks like I need to get a group to drop by the goe cave and check it out.
Calc is discussing crafting!?!?!?!?How did that ever happen?
And you can see what a bang up job I am doing, too!
Jedi_Titus wrote:
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Calc is discussing crafting!?!?!?!?
Belegdae wrote:
When I logged in tonight and checked my inventory the items which I had originally posted had serial numbers now. I know that this morning they did not have any but they did tonight. I have no explanation so take it as you will.
Yeah they must have snuck in a hotfix to correct this, because the rancor bile I had that was unserialized is now serialized. Good stuff, I was about to destroy it, but now I can give it to this cute combat medic I know...
u can make 1 scatter pistol schem
then put 30 -.3 in place of that exceptional tissue and still get excetional stats.
this si a raelly realy big exploit and can be tracked very easily
1. 7 quite nice Krayt Scales (armor segment enhancers)
2. Krayt Graveyard
3. Canyon Krayt
4. Eclipse
Although I suspect the serials will appear after server reset (as seems to be happening with most of the loot lately--they have no serials until the server resets).
The lootpile behind the fire breathing spider though nearly ALWAYS gives you an unserialized cube/solidifying agent/etc that survives the serverrestart if it gives you anything at all.