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Thread: Aww man SOE :(

JerYnkFan
Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:14 pm
#14






Phenix1050 wrote:

I don't get it...you're keeping a skill set just because you've come a long way in it....but you don't like where it's headed or how to get there???


Seems to me if you're driving across a bridge and all of a sudden you realize that there's a big hole in the middle...you stop. You don't keep going "just 'cause I'm so far".


Now before you assume that I'm being insulting or degrating, allow me to dissuade that notion. I'm not insulting, I'm just trying to get a sense of where you're coming from, and to offer a little advice.


Yes, I'll admit, the trapping and camping lines of Ranger are generally the most time consuming. But they are also 1/2 of our skills. Camps are a great way to meet and greet people, as well as to rest up/ rebuff between battles. Traps are a good way to kite creatures and can save your butt. Both of these were designed to be PLAYED through.


Yes, you can grind your way through the Ranger proffession...but there is little reason to do so unless you're holo grinding. Ranger is a lifestylemore than it is a proffession. If you don't like trapping creatures and you don't like pulling out a camp when the situation calls for it, you probably don't want to be a Ranger. Rangers aren't elite killers and they aren't even the most effective creature killers. If all you want is to harvest, pick up a good combat prof and Novice scout...you'll harvest more per hour, I can almost guarantee it.


Now, about the macro camping: why do you care?? Like I said, unless you're grinding for a Holo, or to get the badge, there's no need to grind. Ranger is the best proffession for laid back people who want to play the game well, not neccesarily get the most creds or DB the most rebs (or Imps). It's about playing the game and just enjoying it. Thus, grinding through a proffession that achieves it's full potential is a waste.


I don't like grinders and I don't like people getting XP while AFK. I think it's silly that people can walk away from their computer for hours at a time and still be getting XP. So no, I don't think it's a bad thing that they took away macro camping. It causes lag (all the server objects) and it gives people XP for doing nothing other than finding a good camping macro.


That being said, I highly recomend you check out the Ranger proffession and see if you can learn to appretiate the subtle nuances of the proffession. We're probably not what you expected when you got Ranger, and we're not going to be bad-asses. But we do have a great community, and we have a proffession that's rife with oppourtunity to meet people and we are great support troops. Like I said, Ranger is a lifestyle. It is something that needs to be lived to be understood, and while I do understand your frustration at the long climb up trapping and camping, I recommend you see if Ranger is for you. If you can't stand sitting in a camp, and you don't like using traps...well, you're missing 1/2 the point of the proffession and that's silly.


Don't just become a Master Ranger because you're close. Find a proffession (or a hybrid) that suits what you want from the game. I want to be a Ranger. That's why I am one. Find the gameplay style that suits you and choose a proffession from there.





I disagree with you a bit. I mastered Ranger when I first started this game, joined the ARs and the whole deal. I then dropped to try out other professions, but have since gone back. I did macro craft the heck of the survival XP to get the Frontiering line, but of course had to do the rest the hard way and actually learn it.


I do agree with you that Ranger is more a lifestyle profession and a personal choice than any other profession because what sets us apart from scouts is very minimal. I play a Ranger/TKM/Entertertainer because that is what I enjoy the most and not because I am some super duper hunter and kill everything on sight.




Rooks
Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:17 pm
#15






Phenix1050 wrote:

I don't get it...you're keeping a skill set just because you've come a long way in it....but you don't like where it's headed or how to get there???


Seems to me if you're driving across a bridge and all of a sudden you realize that there's a big hole in the middle...you stop. You don't keep going "just 'cause I'm so far".


Now before you assume that I'm being insulting or degrating, allow me to dissuade that notion. I'm not insulting, I'm just trying to get a sense of where you're coming from, and to offer a little advice.


Yes, I'll admit, the trapping and camping lines of Ranger are generally the most time consuming. But they are also 1/2 of our skills. Camps are a great way to meet and greet people, as well as to rest up/ rebuff between battles. Traps are a good way to kite creatures and can save your butt. Both of these were designed to be PLAYED through.


Yes, you can grind your way through the Ranger proffession...but there is little reason to do so unless you're holo grinding. Ranger is a lifestylemore than it is a proffession. If you don't like trapping creatures and you don't like pulling out a camp when the situation calls for it, you probably don't want to be a Ranger. Rangers aren't elite killers and they aren't even the most effective creature killers. If all you want is to harvest, pick up a good combat prof and Novice scout...you'll harvest more per hour, I can almost guarantee it.


Now, about the macro camping: why do you care?? Like I said, unless you're grinding for a Holo, or to get the badge, there's no need to grind. Ranger is the best proffession for laid back people who want to play the game well, not neccesarily get the most creds or DB the most rebs (or Imps). It's about playing the game and just enjoying it. Thus, grinding through a proffession that achieves it's full potential is a waste.


I don't like grinders and I don't like people getting XP while AFK. I think it's silly that people can walk away from their computer for hours at a time and still be getting XP. So no, I don't think it's a bad thing that they took away macro camping. It causes lag (all the server objects) and it gives people XP for doing nothing other than finding a good camping macro.


That being said, I highly recomend you check out the Ranger proffession and see if you can learn to appretiate the subtle nuances of the proffession. We're probably not what you expected when you got Ranger, and we're not going to be bad-asses. But we do have a great community, and we have a proffession that's rife with oppourtunity to meet people and we are great support troops. Like I said, Ranger is a lifestyle. It is something that needs to be lived to be understood, and while I do understand your frustration at the long climb up trapping and camping, I recommend you see if Ranger is for you. If you can't stand sitting in a camp, and you don't like using traps...well, you're missing 1/2 the point of the proffession and that's silly.


Don't just become a Master Ranger because you're close. Find a proffession (or a hybrid) that suits what you want from the game. I want to be a Ranger. That's why I am one. Find the gameplay style that suits you and choose a proffession from there.






I believe Phenix1050 has just given the Rangers an official Motto.


"Ranger is a Lifestyle, not a profession"

Message Edited by Rooks on 06-19-2004 01:21 AM



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SeanBlader
Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:37 pm
#16






Rooks wrote:



I believe Phenix1050 has just given the Rangers an official Motto.


"Ranger is a Lifestyle, not a profession"





Sounds perfect to me.




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RohmEnari
Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:44 pm
#17

Just curious, but how did they nerf this? What exactly did they do to make it so you can't afk macro camps anymore?





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antwil99
Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:10 am
#18

I doubt any of thelong-term Rangers will lose any sleep over this one; the only thing it does is make the prof. slightly less accessible to hologrinders- but that's going to go away anyhow. I suppose it also affects those Rangers who might be returning to the fold.


What torks me is the thought that therewould have been time to do this (if indeed it was intentionaly done), but no time even toss in asimple perk?Green Marinewrotesome codefor new traps months agoand they've beenin moth balls.




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Nemo0
Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:14 am
#19






RohmEnari wrote:

Just curious, but how did they nerf this? What exactly did they do to make it so you can't afk macro camps anymore?







I'm wondering the same. I've noticed no changes with my camps at all (although I don't AFK them so there might be something in there). The only thing I can think of is that they might have removed the time or combat disband of the camps which is something we have all wanted for a while (can't comment as I haven't sat around in a camp for the full time for a while and I haven't tried fighting out of a HTFB either).



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KaiRaene
Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:56 pm
#20

I have found that often when I go /afk for any length of time I get booted to the login screen. So, I just no longer go /afk. :/



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Nemo0
Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:20 pm
#21






KaiRaene wrote:

I have found that often when I go /afk for any length of time I get booted to the login screen. So, I just no longer go /afk. :/






The game has always kicked you if you are inactive for a set period of time (inactive includes sitting there and chatting but a macro can keep you active). You just need to make some sort of in game action every so often (like masking scent, foraging, standing up, sitting down, etc). Some of my friends sit /afk a good portion ofthe time (usually to avoid the tells they would otherwise get from uber leet 'customers' and beggars when they just want to go out and play the game for a bit) but none of them have ever complained about getting kicked because of it.



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