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Thread: The Ins and Outs of TRACKING
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Aolas
Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:41 am
#14
I'm working up the Tracking tree in ranger (mainly for harvesting bonuses and such). I'm MRifleman/MMarksman,looking for some speed tapes so I can surrender some skill points to probably go more into Ranger skills. Anyway,I'm at Tracking 3 so far and I would just like to know if anyone else has experienced what I'm about to describe.
You say that Rangers can only track that which is spawned...well...,
I was on Lok the other day hunting Gurks for leathery hide and on my way to one of my missions I hopped off my speeder and did an /areatrack just to see if I could find a larger lair spawn. I saw some Gurks pop up that weren't the regular name. I can't remember the names but there were a few Enraged Gurk somethingorothers and several others whos names escape me. It was a server spawned lair, not my mission. Just to see how powerful these things were, I went to their location and all I saw was a lair w/ about 5 regular named gurks around it, nothing else in the area and none of the ones I saw pop up on my tracking list. I figured it was just a glitch so I comensed to taking down the lair w/ my droid out in the fray. I had about wiped out the entire spawn when one of em started running away so I ran it down and finished it off. I came back and kneeled about 40m away from the lair which was about 3/4 destroyed. I waited a couple minutes to make sure there were no others to spawn and seeing none, I commenced to finishing off the lair. At about 15% left in the lair, it exploded and all those unusual named Gurks jumped out and ran me down...having only food buffs and only BE clothing on I went down rather quickly. Luckily I cloned nearby and was able to come back quickly and have my revenge.
I've seen higher lvl creatures spawn from a lair when it's at low HP, and this obviously seemed to be that case. My question is this, if Tracking only picks up those mobs which have spawned, how come I picked up those creatures that were inside the nest and didn't spawn until the lair was almost destroyed? I suppose there could have been some in the area, but I recall checking track again before I tagged the lair, and those creatures were in the direction of the lair I had targeted. I also recall checking the area, but I suppose I could have missed them cuz I was focusing on collecting the hides from this rather large spawn of Gurks.
Has anyone ever noticed this or did I just miss the ones already spawned in the area?
KatyJean
Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:47 am
#15
Aolas wrote:
I'm working up the Tracking tree in ranger (mainly for harvesting bonuses and such). I'm MRifleman/MMarksman,looking for some speed tapes so I can surrender some skill points to probably go more into Ranger skills. Anyway,I'm at Tracking 3 so far and I would just like to know if anyone else has experienced what I'm about to describe.
You say that Rangers can only track that which is spawned...well...,
I was on Lok the other day hunting Gurks for leathery hide and on my way to one of my missions I hopped off my speeder and did an /areatrack just to see if I could find a larger lair spawn. I saw some Gurks pop up that weren't the regular name. I can't remember the names but there were a few Enraged Gurk somethingorothers and several others whos names escape me. It was a server spawned lair, not my mission. Just to see how powerful these things were, I went to their location and all I saw was a lair w/ about 5 regular named gurks around it, nothing else in the area and none of the ones I saw pop up on my tracking list. I figured it was just a glitch so I comensed to taking down the lair w/ my droid out in the fray. I had about wiped out the entire spawn when one of em started running away so I ran it down and finished it off. I came back and kneeled about 40m away from the lair which was about 3/4 destroyed. I waited a couple minutes to make sure there were no others to spawn and seeing none, I commenced to finishing off the lair. At about 15% left in the lair, it exploded and all those unusual named Gurks jumped out and ran me down...having only food buffs and only BE clothing on I went down rather quickly. Luckily I cloned nearby and was able to come back quickly and have my revenge.
I've seen higher lvl creatures spawn from a lair when it's at low HP, and this obviously seemed to be that case. My question is this, if Tracking only picks up those mobs which have spawned, how come I picked up those creatures that were inside the nest and didn't spawn until the lair was almost destroyed? I suppose there could have been some in the area, but I recall checking track again before I tagged the lair, and those creatures were in the direction of the lair I had targeted. I also recall checking the area, but I suppose I could have missed them cuz I was focusing on collecting the hides from this rather large spawn of Gurks.
Has anyone ever noticed this or did I just miss the ones already spawned in the area?
I have not yet tested or experienced being able to track creatures still in a lair. Not to say it doesn't work, just that I haven't tried. What I do know is your description of the lair "exploding with creatures" when it is getting low is totally normal. On lairs that are spawned by the server, the ones that have names like "a pile of sticks" and "a dead log" rather than "a voritor seeker lair" etc, they will dump a bunch of creatures when the lair gets low on HAM. Very, very nice when you are in a group and out gathering resources, but not so nice when you are soloing unless you are a total badass, and of course, if you areeven a noviceranger, you are not going to be a total badass.
Good Luck!
ForceFielding
Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:33 pm
#16
Agonthalia wrote:
"Vertical Terrain (ie: mountainous) is calculated as horizontal terrain, therefore, your tracking range is somewhat lessened.
In other words, the 500 meters is not as the crow flies, but a ground length."
In other words, the 500 meters is not as the crow flies, but a ground length."
No, its not.
Just go find a steep slope and target something that you can easily pick out of a list. Then go up the slope till you see 100m on the target. Then do a track for it and youll see the thing at like 60m while on the target it still says 100m.
Soln
Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:33 am
#17
this doesn't seem right -- tracking was never always 500m, only for Master Ranger.
What is the areatrack radius for the different skill levels?
I remember reading a guide maybe a year ago where I think it was like 150m, 250m,350m,450m and then 500m.
finelinebob
Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:13 am
#18
Aolas wrote:... My question is this, if Tracking only picks up those mobs which have spawned, how come I picked up those creatures that were inside the nest and didn't spawn until the lair was almost destroyed?
The short answer would be "Because they have spawned as part of the lair."
I've noticed this as well, and it can sure come in handy if you're looking for those spawn. Gurks are a great example because server spawned Feral Gurk lairs can have three or so different surprises waiting inside them -- including Reclusive Gurk Kings some of the time. I've gotten quite a few Gurk King Hides off of such wild spawn while bouncing between the two static RGK spawns.
Technically, it may have something to do with how the spawn engine encodes what surprise to pop out of a surprise-enabled lair (if any). Role-playing, chalk it up to your ranger tracking know-how -- You know the difference between Enraged Bull Rancor tracks and Monstrous Brute tracks, so you know if one of those Brutes are in the area -- and warn your fellow non-Ranger party members accordingly.
finelinebob
Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:32 am
#19
BTW ... another names for these surprises are MOB bosses, and there is a thread dedicated to listing what they are. It's not very organized atm, but it is interesting reading.
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