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Thread: Torn between staying ranger or accepting the force...
TomedNor wrote:
If you don't want it, then don't. You can just stay a force sensitive Ranger.
For myself, I want to go jedi just for the alt char ^_^;
I plan on either being a jedi/Ranger, or dropping jedi once I get my alt... not sure yet....
lol. I have a full templated Dark Jedi Knight. It took me 1.5 years to unlock and become full templated. I have more fun playing my (so far) cl 54 rifleman/ ranger than I do with my knight.
You guys thing ranger has it rough... try playing jedi from day one and you might see things differently.
Rangers of all people should always remember. The grass is always greener...
Maxanto wrote:I am a Jedi and I am a Ranger. I do not cry as either (though I can get irritated at times, for instance before I learned the new trapping system) But to say something like that will just give in to anger and hatred. As a blue glowey I didn't excpect that from you...
On the serious side, being a blue glowie does not preclude me from having a negative opinion (but, if my comments lead to negativity, I will certainly try to calm the masses...I didn't mean any harm by what I said).
On the sarcastic side, you don't know me very well. I rival any Ranger on this board in anger and bitterness! 
Ask anyone who has talked to me ingame/on teamspeak/in PMs.
Oh, and thanks for keeping me honest (while I can say whatever I want, as a Glowie, I need to remember there are consequnces to my posts, becuase I am a Glowie)
.Message Edited by Calculus_Entropy on 07-01-2005 10:13 AM
Um, I think Calc was stating a fact, not trying to fan any flames or anything. It's a FACT that Jedi are probably the most vocal community here, the most desired by the "leet powergamer mentality" kiddies, and the one they're really "selling" in the new ads. Just look at the last 3 publishes since the CU, it's not driving wedges into the community to point out the bloody obvious:
Pub 17:
- We lose the Ranger unique /conceal skill and now become "camo crafter" in an attempt to sooth CL1 crafters getting eaten tending harvies on Dath.
- We gain uselsss Kashyyyk camo
- Jedi get 5 fixes / updates
Pub 18:
- We get... nothing
- Jedi get Force Run as a toggle now (boy sure wish I could do that with Burst Run as a Ranger, that would be nice)
Pub 19:
- We get... nothing
- There are 5 Jedi profession sets of fixes / balances, and a general set of Jedi fixes lower in the patch notes. Some complain about SOME of these fixes being nerfs of specific branches of Jedi which most likely were overpowered; some actually realize (even on the Jedi forums) that this is to bring things closer to "balance" since having an Alpha class in a MMORPG will prevent any concept of balance
Now, those are just the 3 major publishes since the CU. The CU broke several traps (either bugged and working better than they ever should, not working at all, or providing almost worthless states and debuffs - getting an extra 1 point of damage or applying a state that's gone even before I can attack or land another trap is pretty pointless), broke /rescue by removing the /peace command, broke or made mootour creature knowledge skills, the AI changes have made it safer to run around WITHOUT camo or maskscent if you're a higher level char, breaking camo or maskscent now seems to always 100% put you into combat which seems to be a bug, and the states that used to be the sole provence of the Ranger (And were deemed to powerful to ever let us apply them to NPCs or in PvP) were handed out to numerous other professions. We're essentially a CL54 toon with a CL80 rating and nothing to show for it due to being "out of scope". Were ANY of these profession breaks addressed in the three publishes since then, or any of the numerous hotfix patches? No. And we're CERTAINLY not alone. We're all familiar with the issues that hit our Tailor and DE friends in Pub 18, and now our CH friends in pub 19. The CH one is possibly the worst of the bunch IMHO since it completely and utterly broke an entire profession when it went live, and it was called out any number of times in testing prior to going live.
When I can look at just the last 3 or 4 major publishes and see 1 "fix" for us (that is largely useless) when probably 2/3 of our profession is bugged, broken or really provides almost no value for the skill points invested, when I see 3 professions almost entirely broken currently due to game breaking bugs for them that were introduced by these patches(BE tissues for tailor crafting, droids losing stats and missing commands, pets with nerf to end all nerfs), and then I see one class pretty consistenly getting fixed, balanced, patched, updated, and generally being addressed in just about every patch - well sure, I'd find it a little hard to say that Jedi AREN'T getting a lion's share of the attention in the game. Maybe it's not 100% attention they necessarily WANT, but the fact is, they ARE getting addressed and getting updates and patches and fixes, which is better than Ranger, SL, Dancer, Musician, ID, Politician, Tailor, DE, CH or many other professions are getting.
Jedi is what's making the money now. If it's so darn important to make sure all the professions are "balanced" why are we STILL not seeing a single post even hinting that there is a Ranger profession in the game, never mind that it's clearly NOT "balanced" for the post-CU world since it was intentially left OUT of any balancing done in the CU, other than tossing us the token CL/health bone to calm us down? We were told we were out of scope, we all accepted that (grudgingly for some) and bought into the line that we'd get balanced after the CU (hopefully "sooner" v "later"). I think Calc was absolutely, 110% right in observing that if you want to play a profession that gets the Dev attention you play Jedi, or possibly BH. If you want to have fun, but remain very much on the fringe and learn how to work around all the bugs, issues, and rarely see any attention of any kind... stay Ranger. Play the lifestyle, not the broken skills. Use what we have, accept what we lack, and accept that what we lack probably isn't going to addressed for another 3-6 months, if even then.
May the Force give me the courage to perform the tasks I can,
The peace to accept the things I cannot do,
And the wisdow to know when to back off that krayt and let it eat those l33t jebays trying to kill steal from me!
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Maxanto wrote:
I am a Jedi and I am a Ranger. I do not cry as either (though I can get irritated at times, for instance before I learned the new trapping system) But to say something like that will just give in to anger and hatred. As a blue glowey I didn't excpect that from you...
On the serious side, being a blue glowie does not preclude me from having a negative opinion (but, if my comments lead to negativity, I will certainly try to calm the masses...I didn't mean any harm by what I said).
On the sarcastic side, you don't know me very well. I rival any Ranger on this board in anger and bitterness!
Oh, and thanks for keeping me honest (while I can say whatever I want, as a Glowie, I need to remember there are consequnces to my posts, becuase I am a Glowie)
Message Edited by Calculus_Entropy on 07-01-200510:13 AM
Maxanto wrote:
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Maxanto wrote:
I am a Jedi and I am a Ranger. I do not cry as either (though I can get irritated at times, for instance before I learned the new trapping system) But to say something like that will just give in to anger and hatred. As a blue glowey I didn't excpect that from you...
On the serious side, being a blue glowie does not preclude me from having a negative opinion (but, if my comments lead to negativity, I will certainly try to calm the masses...I didn't mean any harm by what I said).
On the sarcastic side, you don't know me very well. I rival any Ranger on this board in anger and bitterness!
Oh, and thanks for keeping me honest (while I can say whatever I want, as a Glowie, I need to remember there are consequnces to my posts, becuase I am a Glowie)
Message Edited by Calculus_Entropy on 07-01-200510:13 AM
Please don't think I meant any disrespect by what I said. Ages ago when Atiro first became a master ranger you were one of the first to salute me. I have never thought badly of you at all... we were both Dosh rangers. I respect your opinions and I don't think any title or status should change your opinion or how you express them. I was just taken a bit off.
I sorta regret saying that now. I feel like a SOE nazi. My apologies!
No worries
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To be bitter, neither were we.
Maxanto wrote:The answer is... "you mustdo what you feel is right... of course"
QFE
(Just thought I'd post here because Gledako doesn't like me lurking
)
1) Unlock your second toon, and then make them both Master Rangers
2) On your Jedi toon take a few Light Sabre trees, Master Defender and 4000 Bounty Hunter, then go do your bit to exterminate all the power gamers and watch them whine for dev attention.
Message Edited by Leafgreen on 07-02-2005 01:15 AM