Ranger Archive

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Sir_Perro wrote:
It's Sir Perro, not Sir Pedro... gonna assume that was a Bothan hair ball stuck in your throat hehe.

I too agree there's a racist movement against Bothans... and stop trying to feed us scooby snacks

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Mr. Dog is sensitive!

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oakduir wrote:

If someone hires me to track, say a krayt, how much would I charge to track that for them, would I charge by the hour, or would I charge by finding a creature? I mean, I am missing out on valuable hunting time. I thought that maybe a I would charge by the hour, plus an extra fee if I found one. So lets say I can harvest 10k of a 30cpu resource in an hour, I thought about charging 30k per hour of tracking, plus 100k for finding a krayt and 500k for finding an ancient. Is this too much? Or should I just charge for finding the beast. Any helpful hints will help. Thanks.

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Okay, first of all the "Don't flame me" Disclaimer: The following is an observation, meant as information for consideration and not as "The Right Way" to do it. There is only one way, and that's the one you ultimately are happy with.

Right, here we go.

First off, never, ever, ever agree to track based on results. You could track for creature X for days and not find anything (think gorax) or one of the party notices it before you "hey, YOU didn't find it, the medic did... and you still think you're getting paid?"

Agree a price up front. Per hour or part thereof. Set a minimum time and a maximum time that you're making yourself available.

Don't underprice yourself. Some high end earner is looking for an uber creature for a quest? You want to start thinking in terms of 100k / 200k per hour. In the past I've had a 'tell asking me to track krayts, I've been happily busy doing something else and thrown a silly price at them. 500k for half an hour, whether I find it or not... and dammit they said OK. Still, an hour later, I was a happy ranger (We found two as krayts but some jedi were already on the job. I left the clients to 'discuss' things)

You are being paid for a skill that you have. NOT for the random kindness of the spawn system. They want you to track, make them pay for that. If they want to pay a bonus on finding the target, fair enough.

Oh, and make sure they pay you up front. Never does any harm to ask. After all, you find that big beasty for them they are going to be too busy the next while killing it then hanging out with their guildies being uber to remember the ranger...

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JBMat wrote:

I even told him his other North as he took off South.)

JB

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ROFL

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Tibli wrote:

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JBMat wrote:

I even told him his other North as he took off South.)

JB

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ROFL

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/cough
nope, you'd never see a ranger do that...

"Bantha, 320m SW. Follow me..."
"Guys? Where'd you go?"
"We went SW... where the heck are you??"
"err... I was just, uhm, checking for a good campsite..."

Dragonas asked if he was getting a good deal. The simple answer is "are you happy to track for what you are charging"? If the answer is yes, you've got a good deal.

A more convoluted answer is "how much could you realistically expect to earn in that same amount of time by harvesting"? And here it gets complicated as it depends on what weapons level you are, what's in shift, who is buying, etc etc.

Going after Talus avian the last couple of nights I've got a nice little stash put away, I've racked up a shedload of weapons XP and have had the chance to explore a planet that I'd sadly neglected in the past. (Master Ranger with Rifles 3242) I'll be selling my stack on to a doctor later this afternoon and know that I'll be a happy bunny tonight.

I could have gone and tracked, but I was having plenty of fun working the wilderness and tracking for myself.


However, last time there was a good Talus avian shift on I went up and harvest like mad for a couple of evenings, sweated blood and barely got 2k units. The doc I was supplying wasn't over rich (at that point) and we'd come to a part payment / part buffs sort of deal. Worked at the time but I didn't earn THAT much. (Ranger 2-ish, Master Marksan / Novice Rifles)

I could have gone off and tracked for coin and very probably made a lot more, but I'd have been bored to tears after 15 minutes and by the end of the hour I'd have been willing to pay the client to never ever call me again.


Anyhow, am rambling now, but the short short answer is "there is no right answer" just the one that makes you happiest. Is your motivation ingame to a mass a mega fortune? Have the biggest balance on the block? Or to just have fun, earn enough to cover rents and the occaisional spice/twi'lek party? The deal that gets you to your own personal goal is the right one.


(I have to stop meditating at that shrine, it's warping my mind)

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Almagill wrote:
Okay, first of all the "Don't flame me" Disclaimer: The following is an observation, meant as information for consideration and not as "The Right Way" to do it. There is only one way, and that's the one you ultimately are happy with.

Right, here we go.

First off, never, ever, ever agree to track based on results. You could track for creature X for days and not find anything (think gorax) or one of the party notices it before you "hey, YOU didn't find it, the medic did... and you still think you're getting paid?"

Agree a price up front. Per hour or part thereof. Set a minimum time and a maximum time that you're making yourself available.

Don't underprice yourself. Some high end earner is looking for an uber creature for a quest? You want to start thinking in terms of 100k / 200k per hour. In the past I've had a 'tell asking me to track krayts, I've been happily busy doing something else and thrown a silly price at them. 500k for half an hour, whether I find it or not... and dammit they said OK. Still, an hour later, I was a happy ranger (We found two as krayts but some jedi were already on the job. I left the clients to 'discuss' things)

You are being paid for a skill that you have. NOT for the random kindness of the spawn system. They want you to track, make them pay for that. If they want to pay a bonus on finding the target, fair enough.

Oh, and make sure they pay you up front. Never does any harm to ask. After all, you find that big beasty for them they are going to be too busy the next while killing it then hanging out with their guildies being uber to remember the ranger...

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Why would I ever consider flaming you for this post? I think you've hit the nail on the head here and I'm gonna give you stars for it. I completely agree here... especially with "doing what makes you happy".
Personally, tracking for others is not a ton of fun for me. I feel inadequate when I don't find stuff (even though I know it's not really my fault) and people often don't like paying 200k per hour... but that's because they don't understand that there is an opportunity cost to tracking.
Anyway, Almagill, you've got some great points here. Well done and thanks for saying it.

...reading this over, it sounds kinda complainy. I don't mean to be that way; sorry for the bad vibe if I put it out there.