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Thread: Noob Question What is a pot-tart?

ThGilsRooc
Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:18 pm
#14

The pop-tart is the single reason I've decided to level my new alt toon to carbine/ranger. Nothing is more useful than levelling carbine with a root ability than that trap. Too bad adhesive mesh doesn't work.



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BeesKnees
Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:43 pm
#15






Oreet wrote:
It's a trap!!!





and I fell for it.



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Lomena
Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:46 pm
#16

That last one borked, try this...

Gray03 wrote:
It's an idiotic slang term that has cropped up post CU. It refers to the phecnacine dart - a nifty scout trap (gained at trapping level 3). It is supposed to be a snare trap and was always useful even pre-cu. Post-CU it is one of the few useful traps and is bugged in that it frequently perma-roots the target rather than being the durationed snare it was supposed to be.
A pathetic pack of exploiting cry babies are trying to prevent all discussion of it in its current state, while they go out and wank off while soloing the Gorax and Krayt Ancients with it.





I never did consider myself pathetic, but hey, I can't help it if I am crosseyed. Here is me clicky Now, I can't help it that I am number 197, a little bit shorter, and has a problem swallowing. It is how God made me. Now, if I want to go out and use the trap I earned as a scout/ranger to kill a big beastie, whom by the way I have nightmares about, I think I have that right. Now to get my diaper changed...

P.S. here, have a fresh Poop-tart



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Gray03
Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:32 pm
#17

Consider me a troll if you like, but its the idiotic attitudes about this trap that have driven me berserk since the CU.


I'm not saying anyone shouldn't use it, heck it's like a million other SOE screw ups since launch, use it to your hearts content - everyone else sure will. But, if you can't laugh at all the Gorax/Krayt soloing morons coming here and pounding their chests about it, well then you need help. (For those who haven't used them or seen them used, you can litterally solo anything that you can land the trap on with this bug - heck you can walk away and have coffee once it stops being able to move...)


As for the name change, call me a traditionalist - its been a p-dart or phec dart for the better part of two years..it didn't need a new code phrase.


This BROKEN trap needs to be talked about right along with all the other broken/useless traps. Why? Because if not, its either going to get "fixed" while all the others stay broken..or they are just going to make all high end content untrappable and screw over every ranger royally.

QuietBlade
Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:03 pm
#18

Conspiracy??huh?...who? where?.....Poptarts???adhesive mesh??? yeah yeah thats what it is....poptarts are the adhesive mesh....(waits for devs to fix wrong trap).....ahhh, now my (other) poptart and I can go hunt. Huh?...whose watching me?????? I am a ranger....I can sense you.....uh...ohh, just the wind.... or was it?



As far as our crying about it....think about this....adhesive mesh is bugged to since it doesnt work.....So we have one 2 broken traps that I am ok with being broken. And as far as being afraid the nerf gun is going to be pointed to it,....it will. And it will get fixed at some point in time. But if you think that this one thing being broken makes up for 11 others things being nerfed.....then you rant and you rave and you say I am using exploits.... Youare probably a spoonfed Jedi that thinks that being Jedi means that you should be invincible.... (IE all powerful)....figured I would slow that down for you. Poptarts will be fixed when they revamp Ranger....the devs know about the trap.....but seriously.....they are never gonna revamp ranger....lol....so you spoonfed Jedi are stuck with us poptart throwing masters of the wild.



(looks at monkey....)....."well of course we are going to fling poo at him..."


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Rolfie
Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:59 pm
#19

Gray without going into a bunch of histrionics The P-darts is the only trap that serves a major function for a ranger hunting.


Now no one is stopping anyone from talking about nerfing the P-dart in fact when we all first noticed the problem most of us bugged the issue and made the devs aware of the problem.


The P-Dart recieved a stealth nerf this past week sometime around Wednesday or Thursday. As we have made everyone aware on this board. P-darts still have the prema- snare issue when used to solo by a Master Ranger.


However when grouped and under a few other conditions snares will break quite often. So prema snare is not full proof anymore.


As far as Pop-tarts as slang it was a funny joke to liven the mood around here since the CU hit. I figure we Ranger deserve a break. Alot has happened in the last 30 days and not much love has come to my fellow Rangers.


Maybe in a month or two we will see some attention.


Again Pop-tarts is just what stuck that day. The day it all got started there were alot of post in gest about not talking about it to avoid the Nerf bat.


Do you really believe the Scout and RangerRepresentatives have not brought this up to the Devs? I know bugs have been submitted on this. I have submitted bugs, alot of Rangers have done so also.


We want this as fixed as much as we want to see camps fixed, the rest of our traps fixed, camouflage fixed, tracking fixed, Some defense and Offense mods applied, and a plethora of other tweaks and upgrades to make us viable in the futrue.


Now pardon us for using a tool we have available at this time. We want to have as much fun as the next person. We are the current Master Hunter. We are the Apex predator in the wilds. Not a Jedi. Not a Commando. Not a Bounty Hunter. But a Ranger.


Yes a Ranger is the master in the wilds. As it should be.






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Leafgreen
Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:00 pm
#20






Rolfie wrote:



Well since I am the one who started this pop-tart thing.






Clicky





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ThGilsRooc
Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:16 pm
#21



Gray03 wrote:
Consider me a troll if you like, but its the idiotic attitudes about this trap that have driven me berserk since the CU.
I'm not saying anyone shouldn't use it, heck it's like a million other SOE screw ups since launch, use it to your hearts content - everyone else sure will. But, if you can't laugh at all the Gorax/Krayt soloing morons coming here and pounding their chests about it, well then you need help. (For those who haven't used them or seen them used, you can litterally solo anything that you can land the trap on with this bug - heck you can walk away and have coffee once it stops being able to move...)
As for the name change, call me a traditionalist - its been a p-dart or phec dart for the better part of two years..it didn't need a new code phrase.
This BROKEN trap needs to be talked about right along with all the other broken/useless traps. Why? Because if not, its either going to get "fixed" while all the others stay broken..or they are just going to make all high end content untrappable and screw over every ranger royally.



I'd hate to agree with this guy, but I do.



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Webel Ace Pilot x2
I would ace more squadrons if they'd just fix the remaster bug.
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Leafgreen
Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:57 pm
#22

I do and I don't. My team was getting butchered at the corvette, so I respec'd to Squad Leader in the heat of the moment for the good of all, knowing I'd have to regrind ranger.


Pfft.


Here is the scout sticky on what levels traps will affect.

If it cons grey, you get 1 xp. This means that to get trapping xp you must drop most of your cl and start from scratch almost.

There is no mention of it in the pub 19 notes, on the test center or in development notes, I have been unable to get any response about it via ticket or chat room. Luckily at trapping level 3 you get pop-tarts so you can get some trapping xp without being forced to use a droid and dweezel, now that you've dropped 60 levels.


Reasons for - it's an exploit. It is overpowered and all of us know it.


BUT

Most of our class is broken (are we the most broken class?).

When it gets fixed, there will likely be overcompensation so that it will only be useful to brand new scouts.

Every dog has it's day, and it's the turn of the Rangers.

I don't see that muchtalk about it, except amongst ourselves. Jedi just like to scream.


Reasons against -


It's about the only way I know of to compensate for the trapping xp bug. With this xp bug in place rangers will become even more rare. Which do YOU think will be fixed first, the xp or the trap?





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GothKasbun
Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:26 am
#23






Gray03 wrote:

It's an idiotic slang term that has cropped up post CU. It refers to the phecnacine dart - a nifty scout trap (gained at trapping level 3). It is supposed to be a snare trap and was always useful even pre-cu. Post-CU it is one of the few useful traps and is bugged in that it frequently perma-roots the target rather than being the durationed snare it was supposed to be.


A pathetic pack of exploiting cry babies are trying to prevent all discussion of it in its current state, while they go out and wank off while soloing the Gorax and Krayt Ancients with it.






WOW who pee'd on your Pop-Tart




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Gray03
Sat Jun 25, 2005 6:14 am
#24

Just because its cropped up twice now - I'm not a jedi, never been a jedi and not going for jedi. The idea of some wet-behind-the-ears ranger who's been on the boards less than two months calling me a spoonfed jedi is hysterical.


I've been playing rangers/scouts since the launch of this game. I ground out camping exp on multiple characters, I snuck around on endor and lok way before there were camo kits. I used to be a lot more active on the forums than I have been, but I certainly fit the veteran ranger category.


(And yes I have respec'd out of ranger on my "main" - why? Because I like to pvp with that character and without skill bonuses to speed/acc/defense ranger is dead weaight as a proffession. But I still have several ranger alts that I play.)
Leafgreen
Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:40 am
#25



Deleted. Ugly flame wars have no place in the ranger forums.

Message Edited by Leafgreen on 06-25-2005 07:42 AM





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Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day.
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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