Ranger Archive

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Rooks wrote:

The devs haven't responded to Owen or JB on the correspondant forum as far as we know.

Even if they had responded to Owen or JB we wouldn't know for sure unless they were OKd to bring it to the community.

The devs have not responded to the numerous posts we have made to the in-testing forum about the Ranger problems, which include the HAM system and the Level system.

That doesn't mean they haven't seen them.

The devs HAVE responded to the Armorsmiths and to other testers, but have ignored the Rangers completely.

And now to us as well... there have been changes to how Scout XP is awarded.

The CU is going live as is and nothing we post will change anything other than a few bugs out of the hundred bugs in the CU that will make it to live.

Take a deep breath we're still a long way from it going live.

This is JUST like the original Beta and the JTL beta where the Devs only want to hear about Bug problems, cause the systems and dynamics of the game are set in stone.

Uh... no they're not. We've seen them change a dozen times already. Some things aren't going away (the icons) some things are going to get tweaked though.

ROTW is already hardcoded with the CU, it will not change now.

That's not how it works. RotW content is not hardcoded to the CU. The CU is a system underlying how other things itneract. Though its possible that aspects of prosthetics are coded to behave within the goals of the CU even those aren't set in stone yet. Creature behaviour works within certain aspects of the CU. New Creatures will be working within the code of the CU but that doesn't mean that RotW has to have the CU go live as is. If it did we wouldn't be testing and seeing things change.

In June or so, the Devs will realize their mistake and promise a second CU, thus pushing everyone's revamps back another year.

I'm gonna go to live and sit under an Albatross until I feel better. I am done testing for them, they don't care what we think anyways.

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Relax.

But don't stop talking about this issue. Make sure every soul you can find that doesn't know about how levels work knows after you've explaned it to them.

And if it is appropriate make sure they undersand how it effects us and how that will effect them. No need to be anoying about it, I'll do that for you.

Don't give up, and don't shut up.

Message Edited by agent156 on 04-09-2005 07:54 PM

Ya I could preach doom and glom all day, but affter I saw the new BE stuff...

There has to be some love for us somewhere or the game just won't work. I can only believe they are so stupid.

Oh and my SWG Computer's hard drive crashed, lol. I'm not going to beable to test more untill the moring.

Oh and while I'm at it good job on the XP thing Owen.

Well we know Owen is fighting. He got things done when group harvesting changed. I have complete faith in him.

Right now the profs that depend on us, that didn't understand our problem or only partialy understood it are being made aware of the it. This is one of those things that must be done with care, but we have one big thing on our side, we are highly respected. Its not something that will happen over night but the power of having them all behind us is better than fighting on our own.

They all have their own problems, but like I said at the top of this post this is everyone's problem. I have no problem going out on a limb with out support or sanction and making every one aware of it.

Oh, we will still be needed to harvest. We just have to tag along with large groups to do it. :/

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KaiRaene wrote:
Oh, we will still be needed to harvest. We just have to tag along with large groups to do it. :/

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We can't use the resource argument I'm afraid.

There will still be lots of combat orientated people with Scout. I think lots of those will pick up the Hunting line to make money.

My new "Ranger" template will be:

Master Squad Leader
Master Carbineer
Scout: 4x44
... and I'll finally have the SP to unlock my FS slot.

With Veghash, the harvest grouping bonus and the SL skills, this will allow me to lead a hunting group. Like a Ranger should. Sadly, without Ranger skills.

Only thing this template is lacking is the ability to camo my group.

Message Edited by Creaturetaimer on 04-10-2005 07:33 AM

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Owen-Lars wrote:

The devs haven't responded to Owen or JB on the correspondant forum as far as we know.

1) Nope, its been quiet because tiggs and th have been extremely busy with ep3 prepping. Emails and pms have been flying though and tiggs is helping me get some feedback from the team as we speak.

The devs HAVE responded to the Armorsmiths and to other testers, but have ignored the Rangers completely.

2) Well the scout xp problem has been adressed this patch so the notes say. Not our primary issues but work none the less. Other changes could be coming, or they could not. Aslong as we state our issues and put them in the issue/poll/bug threads they will be seen.

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Fodder650 wrote:
Thank you for condensing the other 400 emails in the scout and ranger forums into another needless post.

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Agent made an eloquent, well-written,non-whiny post outlining the issue for those who don't want to slog through the pages of rampant speculation and moaning. Don't knock her for it.

al-djinn'i

Master Ranger/Master Pistolier

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Fodder650 wrote:
Thank you for condensing the other 400 emails in the scout and ranger forums into another needless post.

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Talk about needless posts

Message Edited by DaveG on 04-10-2005 01:58 PM