Ranger Archive
Thread: A Ranger Revamp Idea
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FourthNail
Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:17 am
#14
Personally, I'd rather not see a Ranger only weapon but Ranger only items that augment our skillset better. Of course the goofy hat, but other things like a big arse backpack. I mean large like the one I ruck in rl. Something that can hold 100 items of traps, food, hides, bones, etc. I'd like it to look like we would have to struggle just to put it on insted of this dinky looking one we're wearing now.
I'd like Ranger saddle bags for our mounts, both spwweders and creatures that you can store stuff in. Face it, we're a bunch of crazy packrats anyways. Also, a Ranger cabin for planets like Dath and Yavin that we can drop in the deepest woods and leave unattended should the need arrise, to hunt or fight.
As Rangers, we can make great use out of any weapon in existence which is why I don't think we need a Ranger only weapon.
Just my $0.02.
Plunk
I'd like Ranger saddle bags for our mounts, both spwweders and creatures that you can store stuff in. Face it, we're a bunch of crazy packrats anyways. Also, a Ranger cabin for planets like Dath and Yavin that we can drop in the deepest woods and leave unattended should the need arrise, to hunt or fight.
As Rangers, we can make great use out of any weapon in existence which is why I don't think we need a Ranger only weapon.
Just my $0.02.
Plunk
Wilhelmy
Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:07 am
#15
Ok, finally some actual thinking !
so, lets see though dont agree with the bow ... (i thought about making something else not preciselly a rifle but something like it like a sub machine gun or something but live as that)
now lets work on the bow .... so yeah i heard about the double crossed bow and it is anot a bad idea ! be able to do your regular shooting as well as shooot traps. so I guess that would be solved !
now what we gotta make it like is that both ranged and melee like that profession, now a knife is Ideal but is gonna need a new name cause survival knife is take
how about : Jungle survival knife or simpy the Ranger survival knife ? ( guess we gotta work on that) \
now the biggest issues is the mods we will have thats where ppl will not like it
i mean waht use does a carbiner has with bow accuracy, or a TK with one handed
So, why not make the modes like just plain Ranged accuracy and plain Melee accuracy as well as speed ,...
Then I would see ppl be able to use what ever they feel like using it though our weapons would have a special twich when it comes to creatures, and stealth manuvers !
so, do you all think that would work ?
CuchulainnDarklight
Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:20 pm
#16
Wilhelmy wrote:
Ok, finally some actual thinking !
so, lets see though dont agree with the bow ... (i thought about making something else not preciselly a rifle but something like it like a sub machine gun or something but live as that)
now lets work on the bow .... so yeah i heard about the double crossed bow and it is anot a bad idea ! be able to do your regular shooting as well as shooot traps. so I guess that would be solved !
now what we gotta make it like is that both ranged and melee like that profession, now a knife is Ideal but is gonna need a new name cause survival knife is take
how about : Jungle survival knife or simpy the Ranger survival knife ? ( guess we gotta work on that) \
now the biggest issues is the mods we will have thats where ppl will not like it
i mean waht use does a carbiner has with bow accuracy, or a TK with one handed
So, why not make the modes like just plain Ranged accuracy and plain Melee accuracy as well as speed ,...
Then I would see ppl be able to use what ever they feel like using it though our weapons would have a special twich when it comes to creatures, and stealth manuvers !
so, do you all think that would work ?
First of all a sub-machine gun would be the CARBINEER class.
Why should it be made that both melees and ranged professions like our weapon? It has nothing to do with them - its a ranger weapon, they cant use it unless they become a ranger.
If you want to be a ranger with a "true" ranged profession you can but your not limited to it this way.
The knife - how about HUNTER's knife.
Please think about what you say before you post. You keep coming up with ideas that limit our profession not open it up!
Our mods will be simple - Bow Accuracy and Speed and Hunters knife Accuracy and Speed. These do not infringe on other professions. However we will keep our creature bonuses for ranged weapons and give creature to hit mods with melee combat skill. These used in conjunction with our survival and wilderness skills plus any other combat professions we may choose (not be forced into) will hive us a UNIQUE style of ranger combat.
Wilhelmy
Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:04 pm
#17
Weapon: Should be a tree design for a special forces profession like no other in the game and on that same tree should include the various types of weopons for the various types of situation as well as its modes
1) Pistols- For close combat situations and fast reaction times
Now here we could see a variation on what type of weopon would fit here and it could also be a all different type of weapon like a light multi-shot pistols faster then the usual pistol and deadlyer of course to balance it out less accuracy
2) Rifle- For the use of Sniping enemies out of range and good for use of stealth while not visible
3) Knife- Special onehanded abilities to be specially combined with the use of stealth and close combat are involved being a silent weapon this would definatly give a special touch on combat !
Ok now said that .... this is just a little diagram ... yeah i do realize rifles are not unique in SWG
a bow and arrow like a lot of ppl are saying is unique and i do agree with that though what you gotta see and i think i got this from someone (this is not LOTR even though i was only talking about the animation that we have when we are traking that i think we should actually kneel on the ground listen for vibration or examine the terrain) so, I believe that a bow is way too wookie/ WOW or ever quest now a high precision rifle is more, now what would make it unike would be a fast accurate rifle
Now about the pistol it will turn the ranger moreinto a soldier and i now see most of you guys dont like the idea even though I see a ranger as a SPEC forces member for hitting fast hard and silent but hey .... guess thats just me .... but anyways
the knife i see that you all agree so guess you guys like it
now here are my views when i putted all together ....
1) larger role on hunts without the need of taking another combat profession though better if taken
2) a role on PVP cause there is none .... even a doc has a few but a ranger NONE a big 0
3) make the profession look more exciting then what it is with new modes and special things that only as a master ranger you can get
now another thing this thread was not just put out to be criticized but i put a little diagram and I want to see the ideas grow
... ok i got something wrong in it .... get me ideas to improve it !
and belever or not i got these ideas from reading what other ranger want whenever they decide to revamp us !
and yes not making repeat myself or contradict myself
I see a ranger as a combat profession and it needs to be one ! or else let me know how much you sell your traps for a doctor and a camping kit to a droid engeneer
Harvest in my eyes are loot with a twich
so please next time someone replies try to be constructive ... you are all looking like BH's complaining about jedis
Wilhelmy
Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:51 pm
#18
OK here go to announcements and read a bit about how the CU is gonna be and see how good a ranger is gonna be hunting and harvesting ....
Personally to tell you the truth im trying my best to make it work in a way to make a ranger able to be better if combined with a ranged profession and ranged !
cause thats where we are gonna be comming too !
now about what i really think !!!
Bow is Everquest or WOW I play SWG I excpect Futuristic Stuff so yes UI prefere a rifle ! not go in the wild like a cave man !!! second The only profession I believe should be melee on this game is jedi !
Now before making any comments and undermining ... giove me Ideas so we dont flunk after CU and another thing Suib Machine gun Its my personal opinion Obiviouslly you all like the bow better so i decided to work with that !
and the mods hahahaha go hunt after the CU and then you tell me about it !!!!!
Note: if you are not gonna make a costructive critsism that has a logic with the star wars universe dont post, once again This is not Everquest even though in a few days we will be nothing but a futuristic copy of it ! but hey !!! WOW E2 here it comes SWGWOWE2 the game of the year
CuchulainnDarklight
Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:47 pm
#19
Wilhelmy wrote:
OK here go to announcements and read a bit about how the CU is gonna be and see how good a ranger is gonna be hunting and harvesting ....
Personally to tell you the truth im trying my best to make it work in a way to make a ranger able to be better if combined with a ranged profession and ranged !
cause thats where we are gonna be comming too !
now about what i really think !!!
Bow is Everquest or WOW I play SWG I excpect Futuristic Stuff so yes UI prefere a rifle ! not go in the wild like a cave man !!! second The only profession I believe should be melee on this game is jedi !
Now before making any comments and undermining ... giove me Ideas so we dont flunk after CU and another thing Suib Machine gun Its my personal opinion Obiviouslly you all like the bow better so i decided to work with that !
and the mods hahahaha go hunt after the CU and then you tell me about it !!!!!
Note: if you are not gonna make a costructive critsism that has a logic with the star wars universe dont post, once again This is not Everquest even though in a few days we will be nothing but a futuristic copy of it ! but hey !!! WOW E2 here it comes SWGWOWE2 the game of the year
You expect SWG to be futuristic, why? Because it has spaceships and blasters. Or because it is set in a galaxy far, far waay a LONG TIME AGO. Perhaps you should go to the TKM/Fencer/Pikeman/Swordsman boards and tell them that they should have their professions removed from the game as they are not futuristic.
Why do you say we should have rifles and then say you would prefer a sub-machine guns (CARBINEER). Then you say a bow is everquest so you dont like it, followed by SWG is becoming like everquest.
You say give YOU ideas for rangers. But, you have yet to present an idea for Ranger that doesnt include the mandatory use of a RANGED profession. Just because you play like that doesnt mean everyone else should be forced to play your way!
You say we should change to be better with an additional profession! Why should we be forced into taking an additional profession? That is the stage we are currently at! You are advocating keeping our profession the way it is!
Perhaps I have misunderstodd your posts, but I am having trouble following your reasoning and ideas as they dont seem (to me at least to be presented in a rational manner - no offence intended).
You cant ask for people to give you constructive critisism if you dont explain your reasoning behind your ideas!
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