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Thread: Price of bones, hides, and meat

groundcrew
Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:45 pm
#1




CaliberCadillac wrote:

Im here to speak about how we rangers/scouts are being ripped off while AS's, BE's, and artisansmake millions crafting with the resources we provide. I charge 1 cpu of bone, hide, and meat, double if I have to hunt them alone. It pays the bills but I have never been a millionair in this game. I know artisans, and AS that have millions and charge millions for their goods. An AS quoted me 2.5 million for padded battle armor the other day! Another qouted me 2 mil, and another qouted me 1 mil. 2 months ago I could buy a complete set of padded battle armor for 150-200k! We do provide metals from mineral harvesters to them also. I know that any noob with novice scout can harvest creature resources but they cant go after specfic hides an AS's requests alone. Thus I am asking every scout and ranger (at least on my server) to either boycott providing these resources or jack up the price of harvested resources to 10 cpu. Show them whats its like to have to spend a million credits for 100k of units. Now obviously some of you out there will say they will jack up thier prices even more to recover thier margin. So obviously we need to explain to them the reason for the new prices and let them know that our prices will go down when they lower theirs. I also think it would be a good idea to form an ranger/scout alliance that will meet periodically to determin market prices. This is our bread and butter! Unite brothers!!!






/agree


Great points. I have a system that I charge by.


Spacific stats. 0-500 = 1-2 cpu, 501-700 = 10-20 cpu, and701- and up 20-30cpu.At900 its automaticaly30 cpu + 1cpu per point over900. In other words, at 910 its 40 cpu.


If they don't care what the stats are they just need it from a spacific planet thenI charge by the planet uinless the stats are good.The higher the riskI have to take the moreI charge.


Tatooine, Corellia, Naboo, Talus, Rori -1 cpu. UnlessI just dont like em or they'er ajeeteye2-3cpu


Dantooine- 2 cpu


Lok, Endor-5 cpu


Dathomir, Kashyyyk- 10 cpu


Friends dont get charged if they help with the killing.




Flakk Gun:Elder Ranger
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome

"My camps may be gone and my cammo changed to Vanish....But I still have my rifle, I still have my love of hunting...and the outdoors, and THAT is what makes me a Ranger."
Calculus_Entropy
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:04 pm
#2

Price fixing STILL won't work.



Calculus Entropy
Ranger Blue Glowie Emeritus
Garindan used /areatrack to find Han.
Rhyeal
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:29 pm
#3

unless you gat an AR chapter of over 100 people to decide to control the market and jack up the price




Rhyeal Shadowblade :: Egone Thale :::: Riflemen :: Rangers :::: Ranger is a Lifestyle, Live it!
"No, I'm not a combat profession, I don't do that anymore."
groundcrew
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:28 pm
#4






Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Price fixing STILL won't work.



/agree
Thats whyI have the system.I can do pritty consistant business this way.



Flakk Gun:Elder Ranger
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome

"My camps may be gone and my cammo changed to Vanish....But I still have my rifle, I still have my love of hunting...and the outdoors, and THAT is what makes me a Ranger."
Bendar
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:47 pm
#5






Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Price fixing STILL won't work.




Especially since a novice scout can harvest insane amounts in a big group too.



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CaliberCadillac
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:08 am
#6

Im here to speak about how we rangers/scouts are being ripped off while AS's, BE's, and artisansmake millions crafting with the resources we provide. I charge 1 cpu of bone, hide, and meat, double if I have to hunt them alone. It pays the bills but I have never been a millionair in this game. I know artisans, and AS that have millions and charge millions for their goods. An AS quoted me 2.5 million for padded battle armor the other day! Another qouted me 2 mil, and another qouted me 1 mil. 2 months ago I could buy a complete set of padded battle armor for 150-200k! We do provide metals from mineral harvesters to them also. I know that any noob with novice scout can harvest creature resources but they cant go after specfic hides an AS's requests alone. Thus I am asking every scout and ranger (at least on my server) to either boycott providing these resources or jack up the price of harvested resources to 10 cpu. Show them whats its like to have to spend a million credits for 100k of units. Now obviously some of you out there will say they will jack up thier prices even more to recover thier margin. So obviously we need to explain to them the reason for the new prices and let them know that our prices will go down when they lower theirs. I also think it would be a good idea to form an ranger/scout alliance that will meet periodically to determin market prices. This is our bread and butter! Unite brothers!!!



Master Marksman, Master Carb, Master Scout, Master Ranger, Master Polition, Jedi Knight.
Nikoziara
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:19 am
#7

Hmm jack up our prices? Sounds good but still....there always will be people who keep the price the same, and then rather then making a little, we'll make nothing






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Dyrwen
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:44 am
#8

I still manage 20cpu just fine on 900/900 spawns of Hide just fine. And I know an armorsmith or two that offer full custom suits with 6k resists for 450k. Realistically I think you should just raise your prices to the standard (at least a base of 3cpu) and move out from there. Go live in your trade forum to see the current pricings on contracted hunters or spawns, as well as armorsmiths that have to be offering less. There's always someone on a server that pays less, and my cheap armor suits and amazing weapons for low low prices make a point of that. The Galaxy search on the bazaar is your friend, use it well and spend a long time in it.




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Oculus
Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:19 am
#9

I'm selling everything at 1 CPU on the bazaar, regardless of quality.

It's my way of getting us as far away from the "harvester"-role we've been forced in to.

People won't waste the SP if they can't make millions of monkeys == less players lobbying for harvesting in our profession. Leave that to the scouts.

Message Edited by Oculus on 09-06-2005 12:21 PM




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JBMat
Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:36 am
#10

Never been a millionaire? What is wrong with you... do you spend all your money on spice, Twi'lek dancers and fast swoops?


Even at 1 cpu I have been making about 1 million creds a week. I am selling a load of generic hide, 1 million units, for 5 cpu today, and will hopefullymake a new friend and business partner (She makes great freaking armor). Coming up, I kept my eye on the forums and saw who was paying how much for what. I could easily make millions some weekends just hunting birds on Lok. Solo even.


Sounds like your server is all gacked up with prices. Don't buy from the morons who want to charge you an arm and a leg. Find a new AS and work a deal, armor for hides at a reasonable rate. Also, unless you are hunting in a group and selling only generic - 1 cpu is way way way too low. Jack your prices up.


Yes, I was selling for 1 cpu when the evil Imperial Ranger was selling for 10x that, and I still have more money than he does (ha ha Kari).


JB
Skadoink
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:05 am
#11


I'm both so I can see both sides here.


As an AS I'm annoyed about some of the insane prices we've been charged for that compulsory spawn of Naboo Bristley (for example)


As a Ranger, its sometimes annoying some of the contract prices I've been offered.


Twopoints though:


Firstly, prices do vary from AS to AS anyway - check the search function on the bazaar and be prepared to press 'Next' lots of times. Prices also vary wildly from server to server, especially since CU drove a lot out of the business.


Secondly, speaking from experience, the effort and grind involved in making armour has increased too. Factory runs have been bugged (mainly for colour) for 3/4 publishes now, and to make any customised armour is exceedingly time consuming. So AS's charge for their time too.


Post-cu the amounts we get per kill is vast in comparison, I personally will not charge more than 10cpu for stuff - unless it is exceptional (and I mean 2+ stats 900+)






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Phenix1050
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:39 am
#12

the word you have to learn is BARTER.


i don't buy armor. i don't buy guns.


but then again, I don't sell hide, I don't sell Krayt tissues and I don't sell Gorax shards. I give everything away and in return get lots of free stuff back. Basically, I'm a self-contained unit. My expenses are 1) housing 2) furniture 3) spice and food 4) stims. These are easily covered by a few sets of missions a week. Other than that I get tons of generic hide that I give away and whenever there's a good shift, I hand it to my armorsmith and get stuff made for free.


I make enough of BH loot to keep me happy in terms of money, so it doesn't matter.





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Skadoink
Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:20 am
#13

^^^


Oh, I agree totally.... just not found one I gel with since the guild left en masse post-cu.....






(FARSTAR) Bogaba - Armoursmith - nr Mos Eisley (WP 3796 -3716)
(INFINITY) Annaka - CH/Ranger
(CORBANTIS) Lyissan - Smuggler

All cancelled the minute NGE goes live.
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