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Thread: I don't want a Ranger revamp.

Almagill
Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:58 am
#1

Revamps scare me.

The more of them I see, the more they scare me.

The more of them I see the more I get the feeling that the following happens:

Your prereqs are radically hacked back and all your main XP comes from one combat type. One line will be kept for PIA XP obtained from something that requires either rare loot, loot kits or some other 'fun' content.

Skills are averaged out so that all combat professions end up with roughly the same sort of attacks. Nobody can be better, stronger, faster quicker than anyone else as that's 'just not fair'.

And then there will be dozens of 55 page threads with every other profession in the game, but two in particular, pointing out how they are more broken than you and if you don't like it there's the door.

Oh, and a steady stream of posts demanding the correspondents fix everything again, now, today and where's my respec out of this nerfed blah de blah.


Still. Should be fun, eh? (I'd be happier with 'just getting the broke stuff fixed', and a hat)














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Temujin23
Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:05 am
#2






Almagill wrote:

And then there will be dozens of 55 page threads with every other profession in the game, but two in particular, pointing out how they are more broken than you and if you don't like it there's the door.








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TomedNor
Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:26 am
#3

You do realize that what you're describing IS a revamp, right?



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TomedNor
Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:29 am
#4



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I also really, really want to get full creature info back.
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Dyrwen
Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:38 am
#5

I share your paranoia. No good can come from a revamp by SOE.

Better to be broke and proud than broken down and lose our dignity telling them to take it all back..




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Bassnet13
Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:05 am
#6

I was just thinking this last night, almost posted it, decided not too. Looks like I ain't alone about it though.



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Noghrilover
Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:28 am
#7

Well they already said there would not be an actual revamp, but more like fixes and perks as you say. What they are doing for Smuggler is closer to what they will be doing for us. Hopefully they will put more thought into it than they did for Smuggler though.



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DesktopSaki
Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:42 pm
#8

Hi. I'm a Master Ranger, and I don't want a revamp.


Really.


I mean, look at the CU. It was a revamp, and it came out nearly unrecognizable. Dancers and doctors got revamped into oblivion. If we get a revamp, it means we will get torn apart and pieced back together into something totally new. That's how it seems to be done.


Instead, I dream of fixes and perks. I dream of building on what we already have. I dream of tents doing what they're promised, and having their role expanded. I dream of traps working on non-animals, giving us a better role in the GCW. I dream of camo froma Ranger--or Master Ranger--being much sturdier. I dream of defense mods, I dream of a few ranged or melee specials, even if they're dependent on having a certain box in another class.


I dream of going out solo and outharvesting pairs--dare I say, even trios?--of CL80 novice scouts.


I dream of a nice hat.


Revamps are only in my nightmares.


Hi. I'm a Master Ranger. When the time comes for love, I don't want much. Just fixes and tweaks. Expand on what we already are. Because I love Ranger as it is and don't want to see it wiped clean and turned into something different.



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BioEngine
Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:51 pm
#9

Have you read my revamp thread?



Make traps like grenades, showing the states, cert, and speed.


Give us a trap throwing speed modifier, so it doesn't take so dang long.


Put tracking results in order of what is north, south, east, and west.


Make our burstrun a toggle.


Allow Camo to stand against CL 90's at Master Ranger.


let us be able to /forage metals for our traps / camps if we have to make some "on the go."


Modular camps would save that tree, really.


Allow us to camoflauge pets / faction pets


Give us disease and poison defense modifiers.


Give us a creature bleeding special attack.


Allow the creature knowledge to serve as a bonus to accuracy on attacks against creatures.


Allow us to see the target's resists again.


Give us an ability to trap NPC's as described in your post.





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DesktopSaki
Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:54 pm
#10


What you're talking about, I'm all for. I call those "fixes and perks" and "game appropriate expansions on our current role." A revamp, SOE-wise, means gutting or making uber, and both will make me go ouch.


I also really, really want to get full creature info back.


Message Edited by DesktopSaki on 07-15-2005 03:56 AM



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Home of the Amazin' Flamin' Bothan Crotch
- /salute Phe'nix, Eclipse's only real life Bothan Marine Ranger. Oorah!
Master Ranger and proud of it.
That which does not kill me... Will make someone a really nice coat.

Kinshi
Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:55 pm
#11








Almagill wrote:
Revamps scare me.

The more of them I see, the more they scare me.

The more of them I see the more I get the feeling that the following happens:

Your prereqs are radically hacked back and all your main XP comes from one combat type. One line will be kept for PIA XP obtained from something that requires either rare loot, loot kits or some other 'fun' content.

Skills are averaged out so that all combat professions end up with roughly the same sort of attacks. Nobody can be better, stronger, faster quicker than anyone else as that's 'just not fair'.

And then there will be dozens of 55 page threads with every other profession in the game, but two in particular, pointing out how they are more broken than you and if you don't like it there's the door.

Oh, and a steady stream of posts demanding the correspondents fix everything again, now, today and where's my respec out of this nerfed blah de blah.


Still. Should be fun, eh? (I'd be happier with 'just getting the broke stuff fixed', and a hat)


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I am bloody sick of 'Revamps'....just look around and see how well everyone else's 'revamps' matched the players expectations.


all the millions of lines of text churned out by players and correspondents and look what has come about in the form of revamps



Its time to wake up and smell the coffee..when you beg for revamp, and you get it, you are not going to get YOUR visions of things should work, you will get the SOE snap decison of how things should work.


Just ask the BH's, Docs, ID's, Smugglers, and Jedi's how much they like their 'revamps'


All a revamp in SOE terms is being beaten bloody senseless with the nerf bat.
















and in other news, yes, we does digg the tiggs. So there's pie in your eye.







DesktopSaki
Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:54 pm
#12






TomedNor wrote:
You do realize that what you're describing IS a revamp, right?




Not an *SOE* revamp.



Once a Ranger... Always a Ranger.
IGN: Stof - Parsec Armor, Mos Omenos, Tatooine, 23 Jump Street -2929 -6677
Home of the Amazin' Flamin' Bothan Crotch
- /salute Phe'nix, Eclipse's only real life Bothan Marine Ranger. Oorah!
Master Ranger and proud of it.
That which does not kill me... Will make someone a really nice coat.

Owen-Lars
Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:50 am
#13

I know exactly what you mean man


The devs do make some weird decisions sometimes, oftentimes.


I dont want a typical revamp, i want a good revamp.



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