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Thread: Harvest:all command at master ranger?
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Zexc
Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:19 am
#1
Shouldentmaster rangersbe ableto harvest all 3 types of resources off a creature at once?I dont see how this can unbalance anything , would just make master ranger more attractive
KaiRaene
Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:25 am
#2
Your right. We should.
But, til they finish with JTL, whatever next 3 publishes jedi get, Combat Rebalance, Smuggler revamp and Squad leader revamp we wont even be considered on the list for a revamp. We have been lobbying for quite some time to help out our useless camps and 2 uber traps. But we are for the most part ignored. TH used to pop in from time to time and say... it will happen eventually. Oh well.
If you havent yet I suggest you read the Outdoorsman proposal linked at the top. Its got alot of great ideas.
But, til they finish with JTL, whatever next 3 publishes jedi get, Combat Rebalance, Smuggler revamp and Squad leader revamp we wont even be considered on the list for a revamp. We have been lobbying for quite some time to help out our useless camps and 2 uber traps. But we are for the most part ignored. TH used to pop in from time to time and say... it will happen eventually. Oh well.
If you havent yet I suggest you read the Outdoorsman proposal linked at the top. Its got alot of great ideas.
Temujin23
Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:55 pm
#3
I'd settle for being able to harvest more. It still burns me that any nimrod with a little hunting skill and two elite combat masteries can outharvest us. We're the hunters. The devs have made us entirely creature-oriented, and we're not even the best at what we do. I want more for the enormous skill point expenditure, but then againit's not as if I'm gonna drop master ranger if I don't get more. I think that's one of our bigger problems-- rangers seem to be dedicated to their professions in a way that others aren't. The devs won't get around to fixing us because they don't have to; they know we'll stick it out no matter what. But hey, how 'bout those jedi? Aren't they neat? Don't you wanna just be one of those?
Sorry. I just get a little miffed is all.
al-djinn'i
Naritus Master Ranger/TKM
Toguro
Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:37 pm
#4
a droid can harvest better than a master ranger. therefore, a novice scout with a droid can harvest as good as a master ranger. that is very, very wrong and needs to be fixed. there is ano way a droid should be able to harvest as good as a real master of the wilderness.
as for /harvest all i agree it would be a great addition to master ranger.
as for /harvest all i agree it would be a great addition to master ranger.
Ranger_Nizzle
Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:01 pm
#5
Harvest all would be really great. Right now, Tat wooly (and the meat that banthas drop as well) are in high demand. It would be nice to kill two birds with one stone. twice the money, half the time.
Fodder650
Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:46 pm
#6
Toguru a novice scout using BE veghash and a droid can not harvest at the level of even a master scout not even close to a master ranger
Arbanis
Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:02 pm
#7
Fodder650 wrote:
Toguru a novice scout using BE veghash and a droid can not harvest at the level of even a master scout not even close to a master ranger
I think he was referring to someone with hunting 4
Toguro
Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:59 pm
#8
Arbanis wrote:
Fodder650 wrote:
Toguru a novice scout using BE veghash and a droid can not harvest at the level of even a master scout not even close to a master ranger
I think he was referring to someone with hunting 4
yea sorry, thats what i meant.
Preacher-UM
Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:16 pm
#9
I think that a harvest all would unbalance rangers just a little. Harvest 2 resources outta 3 maybe, but all 3 seems kinda off kilter to me. Plus i would have to agree that the traps are a little disappointing. Since scout seemed to have such cool traps, i was kinda thrown off by the Ranger traps.
Amida_Enterprises
Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:43 am
#10
You want profession dedication, look at many entertainers, and they get even more ignored then Rangers..
you are worried that a scout using a droid and veghash can outharvest you ?
eat veghash and bu a droid yourself... no way he'll outharvest thàt!
Landorien
Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:14 am
#11
Dancers would be pretty ticked off too if someone with only a few levels of entertainer and an amusing droidcould do just about everything a master elite artist could.
By all means, there aren't any ranger bots, like there are cantinabots or sl-spammers, but the profession have been given harsh treatment since day one.
1. When grouped our harvesting ability is reduced by 50%(!!!), even though it's adamantly clear ranger is a suppport profession.
2. the harvest increase as the solo master ranger is laughable over a X-X-4-X scout.
3. Camo/maskscent has an achilles against tiny little vermin
4. the introduction of vehicles in the wild just about nullifies the tinsy winsy advantage terrain negotiation over a 4X4X scout.
5. Oooh /areatreack can see stuff in a 500M radius, assuming it's spawned, which is dependent on player activity in the area; see support profession bit in 1:.
6. The vast majority of places people want to go are inhabited by npc's, which ranger has no effect against, because bipedal creatures are apparently impervious to naturemade poison, spikes and rope, whereas someone carrying a big hammer, a long stick or just dealing damage with their bare hands is godly.. 
7: 2 of 4 ranger branches essentially doesn't work indoors.
So a mere basic skill to rip apart an animal and taking _all_ of the bone _all_ of the meat _AND_ _all_ of the hide doesn't seem like asking for the devs to give us their lungs or anything. If anything, it's too little. Give rangers solely the ability to harvest premium resources from animals!!!
Toguro
Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:25 am
#12
Amida_Enterprises wrote:You want profession dedication, look at many entertainers, and they get even more ignored then Rangers..you are worried that a scout using a droid and veghash can outharvest you ?eat veghash and bu a droid yourself... no way he'll outharvest thàt!
thats not really my point, its that a nonliving machine can outharvest a master ranger. i would never use a droid, a master of the wilderness shouldent need machines to harvest material from creatures.
Kalaf
Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:41 am
#13
Actually Harvets all would be nice but it should just be an option. You should be able to harvest 1 item like we do now. Or 2 will both in the ammounts of say 1 lvl harvesting lower then Master Ranger. If you do all 3(on the things that have 3 to harvest) all 3 at a amount equal to basicly 2 lvls of harvesting lower ten Master. This should lessen or completely do away with any unbalancing problems.
I mean anyone that has hunted knows that you can get more then just meat off a kill. If this was the case mankind would have never made it out of the 2000 B.C.'s..
Kalaf
Kettemoor
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