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I find it totally distasteful with this new proposed Carbines 4 + Explore 4 pre-req. No I don't have anything against Carbines (the truth be known they're my WOC) and I also don't have anything against the explore skill.

But I am against the idea of reducing our pre-req for the planned revamp of the ranger profession. What are my reasons for this outcry? Well for one I do not wish to see every single Bounty Hunter dabbling into our profession to gain the ability of going invisable to surprise their player marks. Also it will also lead to most people dabbling into our profession if we drop our skill pre-req. For the reasons above, I do not wish to see the proposed pre-req, and I wish to see the exsisting PRE-Req to be carried onto the ranger revamp.

I AM IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE EXSISTING PRE-REQ FOR THE RANGER REVAMP

Then you are in favor of Ranger staying broke and of very limited use. I prefer a grander scale profession with more options and more capabilities. Ranger where it is can do barely any FS skills unless you want to be limited to Bounty Hunter. There is a very very limited subset of other skills available to a Master Ranger to make him/her effective at anything. Pre-CU Ranger was fine, but with every other profession getting dropped to two trees, then it's only proper for Ranger to match that, and be brought into line as a fair combat profession.

This is a battle you cannot win.

My interpretation of the post is not to not do the revamp just not change the prereq and I agree. I like the rangery stuff that is moving down to the scout tree and I want to play special forces of the new ranger class.

Kordia

You want to keep Master Scout as a pre-req? Give me Carbines IV any day of the week, sorry.

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Arawaen wrote:
You want to keep Master Scout as a pre-req? Give me Carbines IV any day of the week, sorry.

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Ditto for me, I've already spent those extra SP...

Regardless, I'd like to have CM 4000 or Rifles 4400 than be stuck with 3 scout trees.

I like traps, I use them a lot, but with conceal shot or bacta toss I can be more effective and faster against everything, not just creatures. I like harvesting, but with a group I can harvest enough for the needs of my entire guild by myself. And I like camping, but without them being more useful than healing wounds very slowly, I'd rather be able to bring down a creature faster so that I don't take any wounds. These are fun elements, but not very functional.

But master scout is part of who we are!

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Rebelcapt wrote:
But master scout is part of who we are!

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It may be a part of who we are now... but with the Revamp we will be very different from Scouts and it doesn't make sense to have that kind of Skillpoint sink. The change in Pre-Reqs will free up a lot of other Rangers who want to be Ranger but not "uber-Harvester". We always talk about how Ranger was flexible... and now we're going to get greater flexibility, why would you be against that?

Ranger needs to become part of the CU and it's going to happen nearly a year after the fact.
If you want to keep Master Scout... go ahead and keep it, that will be your choice.

Best case scenario would be to keep the "new" Ranger prereq's in the scout template, then if you'd prefer to keep Master Scout you could. Any other scenario involving prereq's elsewhere will only hurt certain segments of the Ranger profession. I know some of you really want these combat skills from Marksman but the fact is we don't have them now and we survive. Please don't force the rest of us to change our templates just to make the majority of the people happy.

Worse case scenario you change the prereq's and force some of us out of the profession of which we've been a part for a good long time. Hardly seems fair, yes the "new" Ranger will be more combat oriented in focus but it will still be based on the scout skills of trapping and stealth. Let's keep Ranger where it should be, based on the scout profession.

Message Edited by MTaffin on 11-02-2005 06:07 AM

lol....**edit**...the devs cant do anything right man, they finally do something that has needed to be done for ages and people still moan, im actually startin to feel sorry for em

Well, if it does go with the carbines requirement I hope they give the already established rangers (such as myself who has taken up rifleman aswell) a revamp chance. I'm not sure if it's just the basic carbines skill in marksman we'll be needing or the whole carbinier tree, but let's hope they keep this sort of thing in mind for when the revamp hits...whenever that actually happens...if it does.