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Just curious what everyone thinks.. Why as scout i can mask my scent and it takes no components from the wild to do..But as i reach ranger to use conceal it takes bones, meat and hides to camo myself.. As we get further advanced we get a penalty or as scout do i have glands on my body that mask my scent..This is in a time when technology is key why do rangers regress back to the stoneage when it comes to camo. Let me create a phase disrupter camo kit to conceal myself from enviroment..still needed components from specific planets for there energy matrix. Let my char fade into the background with some graphics.. Well just a thought anybody have some ideas.

I am just not liking they way conceal came about it not high tech enough.

Xylona Tiaret

Master Ranger/Master CH/Pistoleer

Conceal allows you to conceal other players. Thats why you need to craft the camo kits. Its not just a personal Conceal, I can be used on others.

Now camo Also Hides you from NPC's Too,

If every Ranger could Just conceal everyone everywhere with no personal cost (hide, bone, meat). How would that effect things?

I think the crafting aspect of camo is the balance for a powerful skill.

No other class can walk up to a Mauler Lord , sit down /backhand him/her and walk away. (unless a Ranger concealed them)

I'm a ranger on Starsider also, working my way to master. I usually hang out on Dathomir or Lok when I'm hunting, otherwise I chill in the cantina in Theed or the starport in Coronet. I am organizing a small hunt that is taking place tomorrow night on Yavin 4, only 10 people will be taken, trying to see if there is an interested in other professions for a ranger led hunt.

OOps, replying to too many messages at once. What I meant to post here is, is conceal that good? Can it drop like mask scent in combat or by being detected? How long does it last?

"Can it drop like mask scent in combat or by being detected?"

Yes, it drops during combat just like /maskscent.

"How long does it last? "

Undetected, /conceal will remain active for up to 25 minutes.

Which crafting tool allows for experimentation? I know the generic does not.

So, needing 60 some units of organics that are specific to the planet to conceal just one person seems a high price to pay. I was thinking of concealing an entire group and that just may not be feasible.

"So, needing 60 some units of organics that are specific to the planet to conceal just one person seems a high price to pay. I was thinking of concealing an entire group and that just may not be feasible. "

Each camo kit can have 20 charges (if experimented using the best material).

• Unexperimented the kits have about 6 charges.

WELL, you are 100 percent correct about the value of the resources required to make a camo kit VS the free maskscent.

Conceal is NOT that much better than maskscent to justify the cost. (although the cost isn't really that high, I have so much hide I could destroy 2k of it and not care, so losing resources on a kit doesn't bother me...)

But your point is well taken, because just because the kits arent so bad to make, the free maskscent VS camo kit is a little unbalanced.

We can (supposedly) walk by aggro npcs and apply it to teammates.

Those are the only 2 benefits over maskscent in my mind.

The fact that they both break when engaged in combat is UNACCEPTABLE and that makes the cost of camoing a group out of the question....

I currently don't use camo, I am waiting for Nraas to save the day and get it fixed.

"I currently don't use camo, I am waiting for Nraas to save the day and get it fixed."

Right... No pressure here.

The request to allow a Ranger to self-conceal without using resources/camo kit is in the State of the Profession (or Top Five List) already. So, if it is ever accepted, it would work like maskscent. I do think you should need to burn resources to conceal others, to keep things balanced.

Use the Weapon, Droid, & General crafting tool in conjunction with the crafting station in the HTFB.

If you aren't quite at that level yet use the tool with one of the public crafting stations, or a personal one you put in your house (which to my understanding is the best way to go).

"Can it drop like mask scent in combat or by being detected?"

Yes, it drops during combat just like /maskscent.

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Odd - I mean I can see why they would say it breaks when in combat, but I would have thought the bonuses would automatically apply again once you had stopped fighting and got out of eyeshot from the beastie. I mean it isn't like the camo suddenly fell off your face. Would have thought a simple 25 min time limit per kit (except when in battle) was enough.

I suppose that's there to stop people soloing larger animals by bleeding then running/concealing and sneaking back for another shot, because god knows that could never be done in real life - far better and more realistic to whip two 50ft 'pets' or vehicles out of you pocket and send them in instead.

By the way - that large bulge in my cheek is my tongue.