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Thread: Harvest testing Data for Kimi
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Vorpaks
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:20 pm
#1
Edit: there was a mistake in the last two tests - I marked them as ungrouped when they were actually grouped.
Here are my raw numbers from harvesting today. Check them against yours to make sure I recorded correctly?
After I figure out how to do math I'll try to work the percentages and figure out the gap between harvest levels ect. Unless someone beats me to it.
Once I get the percentages figured I will post on the Testing thread. I'd love to meet up again laer when TC-G comes back up, anyone who is free!
For info: Testing was on Endor. Kimi and I started with Kimi at MRanger and Vorpaks at MScout. Both were MRifles using T21 and buffed no armor. Later Liart joined with Ranger 0040 and Vorpaks dropped to Scout hunting IV. Here is the data (ung, ugr = ungrouped; gr = grouped):
MRanger ung 71 units meat roba
Mscout ung 53 units meat roba
MRanger gr 85 units meat roba
MScout gr 73 units meat roba
MRanger gr 84 units meat roba
MScout gr 73 units meat roba
MRanger gr 86 units meat roba
MScout gr 74 units meat roba
MRanger gr 86 units meat roba
MScout gr 74 units meat roba
MRanger ung 65 units meat boar wolf
Mscout ung 49 units meat boar wolf
MRanger ung 65 units meat boar wolf
Mscout ung 48 units meat boar wolf
MRanger ung 65 units meat boar wolf
Mscout ung 48 units meat boar wolf
MRanger ung 65 units meat boar wolf
Mscout ung 48 units meat boar wolf
MRanger gr 77 units meat boar wolf
MScout gr 67 units meat boar wolf
MRanger gr 77 units meat boar wolf
MScout gr 67 units meat boar wolf
MRanger gr 76 units meat boar wolf
MScout gr 67 units meat boar wolf
MRanger gr 77 units meat boar wolf
MScout gr 67 units meat boar wolf
MRanger ung 106 units meat latern bird
Mscout ung 79 units meat lantern bird
MRanger ung 106 units meat latern bird
Mscout ung 79 units meat lantern bird
MRanger ung 106 units meat latern bird
Mscout ung 79 units meat lantern bird
MRanger gr 126 units meat latern bird
MScout gr 110 units meat latern bird
MRanger gr 127 units meat latern bird
MScout gr 111 units meat latern bird
MRanger gr 127 units meat latern bird
MScout gr 111 units meat latern bird
MRanger ung xx unit meat
Ranger 0040 ung unit meat
Scout 4444 ung meat
Arrg. I missed that one and it was important too.
MRanger gr 136 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 138 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 gr 106 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger gr 136 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 138 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 gr 105 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger gr 136 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 138 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 gr 105 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger gr 136 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 138 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 gr 105 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger ugr 105 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 99 ugr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 ugr 76 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger ugr 105 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 99 ugr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 ugr 76 meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 119 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 gr 98 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger gr 136 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 138 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
We did some manic testing on the out of range thing before the server poofed, but I didnt get any of the numbers recorded. It seemed to be working.
Here are my raw numbers from harvesting today. Check them against yours to make sure I recorded correctly?
For info: Testing was on Endor. Kimi and I started with Kimi at MRanger and Vorpaks at MScout. Both were MRifles using T21 and buffed no armor. Later Liart joined with Ranger 0040 and Vorpaks dropped to Scout hunting IV. Here is the data (ung, ugr = ungrouped; gr = grouped):
MRanger ung 71 units meat roba
Mscout ung 53 units meat roba
MRanger gr 85 units meat roba
MScout gr 73 units meat roba
MRanger gr 84 units meat roba
MScout gr 73 units meat roba
MRanger gr 86 units meat roba
MScout gr 74 units meat roba
MRanger gr 86 units meat roba
MScout gr 74 units meat roba
MRanger ung 65 units meat boar wolf
Mscout ung 49 units meat boar wolf
MRanger ung 65 units meat boar wolf
Mscout ung 48 units meat boar wolf
MRanger ung 65 units meat boar wolf
Mscout ung 48 units meat boar wolf
MRanger ung 65 units meat boar wolf
Mscout ung 48 units meat boar wolf
MRanger gr 77 units meat boar wolf
MScout gr 67 units meat boar wolf
MRanger gr 77 units meat boar wolf
MScout gr 67 units meat boar wolf
MRanger gr 76 units meat boar wolf
MScout gr 67 units meat boar wolf
MRanger gr 77 units meat boar wolf
MScout gr 67 units meat boar wolf
MRanger ung 106 units meat latern bird
Mscout ung 79 units meat lantern bird
MRanger ung 106 units meat latern bird
Mscout ung 79 units meat lantern bird
MRanger ung 106 units meat latern bird
Mscout ung 79 units meat lantern bird
MRanger gr 126 units meat latern bird
MScout gr 110 units meat latern bird
MRanger gr 127 units meat latern bird
MScout gr 111 units meat latern bird
MRanger gr 127 units meat latern bird
MScout gr 111 units meat latern bird
MRanger ung xx unit meat
Ranger 0040 ung unit meat
Scout 4444 ung meat
Arrg. I missed that one and it was important too.
MRanger gr 136 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 138 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 gr 106 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger gr 136 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 138 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 gr 105 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger gr 136 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 138 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 gr 105 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger gr 136 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 138 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 gr 105 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger ugr 105 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 99 ugr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 ugr 76 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger ugr 105 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 99 ugr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 ugr 76 meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 119 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 gr 98 meat shim lantern bird
MRanger gr 136 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 138 gr unit meat shim lantern bird
We did some manic testing on the out of range thing before the server poofed, but I didnt get any of the numbers recorded. It seemed to be working.
Message Edited by Vorpaks on 02-19-2005 03:56 PM
icarus-uk
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:39 pm
#2
Disturbing to see a number of times that a 0040 Ranger out harvested a Master Ranger.
Vorpaks
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:41 pm
#3
Definitely - a Ranger 0040 will consistently outharvest a Master Ranger under this new system.
DesktopSaki
Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:56 pm
#4
A Master Scout grouped with a Master Ranger will harvest as much (or nearly as much) as an ungrouped Master Ranger. A 4444 Scout grouped will outharvest an ungrouped Master Ranger. A grouped Ranger will outharvest the Master Ranger.
Those numbers are very disturbing.
Vorpaks
Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:55 pm
#5
I haven't figured out what all this means yet, and there are more combos I'd like to try obviously, but I thought I would throw it out there in raw form for anyone to use/check if they like. I already sent a PM to Doc/Obata asking him to check my math.
/hug Assume a +/- 1% margain for error.
Harvesting percentage gaps ungrouped:
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 38% more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 34% more than a MScout (ungrouped)
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 6% more than a Ranger0040 (ungrouped)
A Ranger0040 (ungroped) harvests 30% more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)
A Ranger0040 (ungrouped) harvests (not yet tested) more than a Master Scout (ungrouped)
A Master Scout(ungrouped) harvests (not yet tested) more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)
Harvesting percentage gaps grouped:
MRanger vs. All:
MRanger (+20%) + Scout0040 (+40%) grouped
not yet tested
MRanger (+20%) + MScout (+40%) grouped
MRanger harvests 16% more than MScout
MRanger (+30%) + Ranger0040 (+40%) grouped
Ranger0040 harvests 1.5% more than MRanger
Ranger0040 vs. All:
Ranger0040 (+20%) + Scout0040 (+30%) grouped
Ranger0040 harvests 21% more than the Scout0040
Ranger0040 (+20%) + MScout (+30%) grouped
Ranger0040 harvests (not yet tested) more than the MScout
Ranger0040 (+40%) + MRanger (+30%) grouped
Ranger0040 harvests 1.5% more than MRanger
All together now:
MRanger (+30%) + Ranger0040 (+40%) + Scout0040 (+40%) grouped
MRanger harvests 30% more than Scout0040
Ranger0040 harvests 31% more than Scout0040
Ranger0040 harvests 1.5% more than MRanger
Harvesting percentage gaps Grouped vs. Ungrouped:
Mranger + MRanger grouped
MRanger (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 40%) more than MRanger (ungrouped)
MRanger + Ranger0040 grouped
MRanger grouped harvests (not yet tested - assume 30%) more than MRanger (ungrouped)
MRanger + non-Ranger grouped
MRanger (grouped) harvests 20% more than MRanger (ungrouped)
Ranger0040 + Mranger grouped
Ranger0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 40%) more than Ranger0040 (ungrouped)
Ranger0040 + Ranger0040 grouped
Ranger0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 30%) more than Ranger0040 (ungrouped)
Ranger0040 + non-Ranger grouped
Ranger0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 20%) more than Ranger0040 (ungrouped)
Scout0040 + MRanger (grouped)
Scout0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 40%) more than Scout0040 (ungrouped)
Scout0040 + Ranger0040 (grouped)
Scout0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 30%) more than Scout0040 (ungrouped)
Scout0040 + non-Ranger (grouped)
Scout0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 20%) more than Scout0040 (ungrouped)
Tests to perform:
Grouped vs. ungrouped all on same creature with all combos except MRanger + non-Ranger (just to be sure)
Master Ranger + Scout0040 grouped
Ranger0040 + MScout grouped
Nranger + MScout grouped
NRanger + Scout0040 grouped
Harvesting percentage gaps ungrouped:
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 38% more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 34% more than a MScout (ungrouped)
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 6% more than a Ranger0040 (ungrouped)
A Ranger0040 (ungroped) harvests 30% more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)
A Ranger0040 (ungrouped) harvests (not yet tested) more than a Master Scout (ungrouped)
A Master Scout(ungrouped) harvests (not yet tested) more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)
Harvesting percentage gaps grouped:
MRanger vs. All:
MRanger (+20%) + Scout0040 (+40%) grouped
not yet tested
MRanger (+20%) + MScout (+40%) grouped
MRanger harvests 16% more than MScout
MRanger (+30%) + Ranger0040 (+40%) grouped
Ranger0040 harvests 1.5% more than MRanger
Ranger0040 vs. All:
Ranger0040 (+20%) + Scout0040 (+30%) grouped
Ranger0040 harvests 21% more than the Scout0040
Ranger0040 (+20%) + MScout (+30%) grouped
Ranger0040 harvests (not yet tested) more than the MScout
Ranger0040 (+40%) + MRanger (+30%) grouped
Ranger0040 harvests 1.5% more than MRanger
All together now:
MRanger (+30%) + Ranger0040 (+40%) + Scout0040 (+40%) grouped
MRanger harvests 30% more than Scout0040
Ranger0040 harvests 31% more than Scout0040
Ranger0040 harvests 1.5% more than MRanger
Harvesting percentage gaps Grouped vs. Ungrouped:
Mranger + MRanger grouped
MRanger (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 40%) more than MRanger (ungrouped)
MRanger + Ranger0040 grouped
MRanger grouped harvests (not yet tested - assume 30%) more than MRanger (ungrouped)
MRanger + non-Ranger grouped
MRanger (grouped) harvests 20% more than MRanger (ungrouped)
Ranger0040 + Mranger grouped
Ranger0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 40%) more than Ranger0040 (ungrouped)
Ranger0040 + Ranger0040 grouped
Ranger0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 30%) more than Ranger0040 (ungrouped)
Ranger0040 + non-Ranger grouped
Ranger0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 20%) more than Ranger0040 (ungrouped)
Scout0040 + MRanger (grouped)
Scout0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 40%) more than Scout0040 (ungrouped)
Scout0040 + Ranger0040 (grouped)
Scout0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 30%) more than Scout0040 (ungrouped)
Scout0040 + non-Ranger (grouped)
Scout0040 (grouped) harvests (not yet tested - assume 20%) more than Scout0040 (ungrouped)
Tests to perform:
Grouped vs. ungrouped all on same creature with all combos except MRanger + non-Ranger (just to be sure)
Master Ranger + Scout0040 grouped
Ranger0040 + MScout grouped
Nranger + MScout grouped
NRanger + Scout0040 grouped
Message Edited by Vorpaks on 02-21-2005 09:28 PM
Owen-Lars
Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:24 pm
#6
Great work you two, ill be logging in tonight to log some time testing if i can.
Owen-Lars
Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:56 pm
#7
"Harvesting percentage gaps ungrouped:
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 38% more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 34% more than a MScout (ungrouped)
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 6% more than a Ranger0040 (ungrouped)
A Ranger0040 (ungroped) harvests 30% more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)
A Ranger0040 (ungrouped) harvests (not yet tested) more than a Master Scout (ungrouped)
A Master Scout(ungrouped) harvests (not yet tested) more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)"
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 38% more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 34% more than a MScout (ungrouped)
A MRanger (ungrouped) harvests 6% more than a Ranger0040 (ungrouped)
A Ranger0040 (ungroped) harvests 30% more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)
A Ranger0040 (ungrouped) harvests (not yet tested) more than a Master Scout (ungrouped)
A Master Scout(ungrouped) harvests (not yet tested) more than a Scout0040 (ungrouped)"
Paks are these % right?
Minebased off the lantern bird results came out at this but not sure if my calcs are right(ungrouped):
"MRanger ugr 105 unit meat shim lantern bird
Ranger 0040 99 ugr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 ugr 76 meat shim lantern bird"
Ranger 0040 99 ugr unit meat shim lantern bird
Scout 4444 ugr 76 meat shim lantern bird"
A Ranger 0040 would harvest 23% more thana scout 0040
A MRanger would harvest 28% more than a scout 0040
A MRanger would harvest 5% more thana Ranger 0040
Those are figures i got from the lantern bird data.
Vorpaks
Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:02 pm
#8
This is the equation I got from my subject matter expert:
MR harvests X
MS harvests Y
If you want the % increase of MR harvest over MS harvest:
(X-Y)/Y*100
So to figure out the percentage it would be [(105-76)/76]*100 = approx 38%
MR harvests X
MS harvests Y
If you want the % increase of MR harvest over MS harvest:
(X-Y)/Y*100
So to figure out the percentage it would be [(105-76)/76]*100 = approx 38%
Obata
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:21 pm
#10
As Paks' "subject matter expert", allow me to explain.
The calculations she used are correct for finding the % increase a master ranger gets over a master scout. The other way gives you the % decrease a master scout suffers compared to a master ranger.
Tiggs
Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:02 pm
#11
This is great data and I will be sending it on to the Devs to take another look into. Thanks for taking the time out to test this.
Phenix1050
Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:38 am
#13
Thanks for the info Paks. I am very glad to see that Tiggs saw it. (BTW, thank you Tiggs, for keeping an eye on us here). I
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