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Um I poked around a bit trying to figure out where the right place to post this was and got nowhere fast, lol.

I'll start here and you can tell me.

This was on TC-G

The problem goes like this. I'm an imp, I pop on camo and move past Imp NPCs at Imp Faction Bases. I start seeing scout xp spam, then one breaks my conceal.

I.E. the bug is -

Non agro NPCs are making a check against my /conceal. Really Really bad. They are all giveing me like 145 scout xp each and breaking my mask rather offten. I'd really don't want my own guys getting me killed

Message Edited by agent156 on 02-19-2005 08:58 PM

Hehehe You haven't tryed camo in while have you. It does protect you from NPCs. I use it to Farm Imp faction all the time. It alows me to use conceal shot on Reb NPCs with out geting the smack down from those turrets. Just after I got /conceal I walked up to Reb Generals with a TEF on and did a /poke just to make sure. I don't spend time Overt so if that broken I wouldn't know.

It looks kinda like this in live. For those that need proof that it does ideed work in Live against factioned NPCs right now.

The Point is - I AM AN IMP my Conceal is geting checked by OTHER IMPS. OTHER IMPs ARE BREAKING MY CONCEAL. How the hell is that good? Non agro criters don't check my conceal. And Imps don't check my conceal on live right now either. I know becuase I used to afk in camp for short times next to Nova Troopers on Endor, before I was capped, no scout xp passing conceal spam.

The only NPCs in live that my conceal doesn't worked on are the NPC spawed for the Jabba theme park. I wasn't caped on scout xp then so if there had been a check I would have seen it. There was no detection message either. They just jumped me as soon as I got withing 64 m.

Message Edited by agent156 on 02-19-2005 11:57 PM

Cammo has been working against NPC's for a dogs age. You were getting sporadic awards of XP from some high end Tusken, for example. On the whole though it just resulted in the NPC ignoring your presence until you behave aggressivley near them, which for me was a good enough reason to use it.

It's more apparent because there are more high end creatures (ATST, Novatroopers, Reb Commodores) near the bases just now, but they are checking, you're getting the XP for successfully evading.

I'm not so sure that same faction NPC's should be giving XP though as that seems wrong / buggy / exploitable.

Then gain, we've seen own faction NPC's reacting aggressively during the tests and THAT is a bug.

Nevermind.. lol

Message Edited by frightwig on 02-20-2005 11:51 AM

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Temujin23 wrote:

Last night I was still a bit skeptical, so I walked right up to an NS stalker and gave her a big /kiss.

al-djinn'i

Master Ranger/Master Rifleman

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/shudder

I know you're desperate al... but I didn't realize it was this bad.

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agent156 wrote:
The problem goes like this. I'm an imp, I pop on camo and move past Imp NPCs at Imp Faction Bases. I start seeing scout xp spam, then one breaks my conceal.

I.E. the bug is -

Non agro NPCs are making a check against my /conceal. Really Really bad. They are all giveing me like 145 scout xp each and breaking my mask rather offten. I'd really don't want my own guys getting me killed

Message Edited by agent156 on 02-19-2005 08:58 PM

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This can be reproduced on live. Go to Dant imp outpost, camo and head south. You either get 275xp or the AT-ST breaks your camo. Recently I have been only getting xp, a couple of months ago the camo was breaking constantly. No other Imp NPC's seem to be checking camo or giving xpin live.

BR/~~L

One, I just wanted to know where to report this as I thought it was a problem. Two, friendly NPCs breaking my camo amounts to them pointing at me and screaming to the enemy "Hey there is one of our rangers kill him!"

Its not about the check, it about the check leading to breaking the /conceal.

Its not like and can stand 10 m away from a NPC with conceal on and attack him and have him not see me. He dosn't even need to break my mask.

"Hey bob whats that bush doing in here?" "Jim that bush has always been there shut up." "Bob the bush just shot me!" "Kill it quick its a Ranger!"

Note this Tusken jumped me before I shot at him. And as you can see, my conceal isn't broken.

Hey bob?

If /conceal isn't for hiding from NPCs then what is if for? If /conceal is going to get checked against freindly NPCs Then /maskscent should get checked against angainst non agro criters.

I'd love to see these discusions about the fact the /conceal isn't supposed to work on NPCs. I'll look around a bit, but trying to do searches on the forums here is often fruitless. If some knows what to look for please give me a heads up.

Personaly I don't belive the way it works now is a bug. They would have had to ADD code to the NPCs AI to make /conceal work on them. I don't belive in code just appearing out of thin air.

Message Edited by agent156 on 02-21-2005 04:00 AM

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agent156 wrote:

If /conceal isn't for hiding from NPCs then what is if for? If /conceal is going to get checked against freindly NPCs Then /maskscent should get checked against angainst non agro criters.

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