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Thread: How to deal with rif-raf
First off, why are you not using Zoning??
Without it ANYONE can come and place building wherever they want! Just impliment Zoning, place a few people you trust on Militia (so they can grant Zoning rights) and make sure they REvoke Rights (use the /grantzone command a 2nd time) after the desired structure is placed.
My city is well laid out, with streets and actual blocks of buildings using this method.
Ad for the existing houses, not much to be done, MAYBE get a CSR to help (fat chance, sorry)
denmstrsn wrote:
I've got a citizen of my city, that I was just elected mayor to, that thinks it's funny to place houses in the middle of the road in the city. Any ideas on how to deal with this. I have already asked him, twice, to move the houses. I was not mean about it, but after the first email, he put down two more houses in the middle of the road ways. I thought about banning, but that doen's mean much. Any ideas.
This would be considered a Griefing problem and I would try to contact a CSR about this whole issue. There is no need for someone to ruin the enjoyment of others play-time and I would strongly suggest using the zoning rights.
they can't place any structures what-so-ever if they don't have the zoning rights, and they would have to come to you...also, you can revoke someone's zoning rights as well. I know it's to late for that now, but hopefully it will help you next time. I would also do a city ban as well. Let the person than make a ticket and when a CSR contacts you, you can tell them what's going on as well. Also, keep any and all e-mails that you send and recieve from this player as proof of his or her actions. Good luck and hope this issue is resolved for you soon.
Message Edited by RynnnDraggon on 06-15-2005 11:54 AM
Enabling zoning makes it so they have to come to you or one of your militia members to be able to be granted that permission to place, and hopefully your militia know where houses are allowed to be placed and they are sure to revoke zoning after it has been placed.
Of course, the best way is ALWAYS to place it yourself.
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Oh wait! Not -that- Rif Raf.
Sorry, move along, nothing to see here.
damsel wrote:
If zoning is not enabled, then they have every right to do this and it is not considered greifing, as far as I know. You've set it up so that anyone can place a house anywhere without permission.
Enabling zoning makes it so they have to come to you or one of your militia members to be able to be granted that permission to place, and hopefully your militia know where houses are allowed to be placed and they are sure to revoke zoning after it has been placed.
Of course, the best way is ALWAYS to place it yourself.
Message Edited by RynnnDraggon on 06-16-2005 11:07 PM
RynnnDraggon wrote:
damsel wrote:
If zoning is not enabled, then they have every right to do this and it is not considered greifing, as far as I know. You've set it up so that anyone can place a house anywhere without permission.
Enabling zoning makes it so they have to come to you or one of your militia members to be able to be granted that permission to place, and hopefully your militia know where houses are allowed to be placed and they are sure to revoke zoning after it has been placed.
Of course, the best way is ALWAYS to place it yourself.
It IS in fact considered greifing if he was asked to move these houses from the road ways and the Jerk just ignores him and does it again. I have already talked to a CSR about this, and it is in fact a form of greifing. I would not have posted had a CSR not told me, and I'm pretty sure they know what is considered greifing or not.Message Edited by RynnnDraggon on 06-16-2005 11:07 PM
I meant when he placed it, he had every right to, but once he was asked to remove it, then yes, it is greifing. Sorry for the confusion, I should have said it clearer.
Why is that griefing? I own and operate a city and have for over a year. (just some background)
If someone drops a house where I don't want (and zoning wasn't enabled), then tough for me. They have every right within the game mechanics to place it where they want, even if I don't like it. It was the way the mechanics work, and was designed. Access isn't blocked to anyone's structure, it's just being difficult.
Personally, I put streetlights down in the middle of our cities road, so even if we get an upset militia person, they can't put a house down in the street. Problem solved. (and little tip)
Now I understand how frustrating and cruddy this is, as it has happened to us. I just do not see it as griefing. Simply a bad thing that happens. If everything that was bad happened was griefing, the game would grind to a halt. Putting a lightpost in front of a door (had this happen to me) to block entrance is griefing. Putting a house down where I don't like is not, just a cruddy thing to do. 
I won't entertain flames on this, but will entertain discussion on a rational level.
Lordartex wrote: (snip)
If someone drops a house where I don't want (and zoning wasn't enabled), then tough for me. They have every right within the game mechanics to place it where they want, even if I don't like it. It was the way the mechanics work, and was designed. Access isn't blocked to anyone's structure, it's just being difficult.
Personally, I put streetlights down in the middle of our cities road, so even if we get an upset militia person, they can't put a house down in the street. Problem solved. (and little tip)
Correct and awesome tip.
damsel wrote:
RynnnDraggon wrote:
damsel wrote:
If zoning is not enabled, then they have every right to do this and it is not considered greifing, as far as I know. You've set it up so that anyone can place a house anywhere without permission.
Enabling zoning makes it so they have to come to you or one of your militia members to be able to be granted that permission to place, and hopefully your militia know where houses are allowed to be placed and they are sure to revoke zoning after it has been placed.
Of course, the best way is ALWAYS to place it yourself.
It IS in fact considered greifing if he was asked to move these houses from the road ways and the Jerk just ignores him and does it again. I have already talked to a CSR about this, and it is in fact a form of greifing. I would not have posted had a CSR not told me, and I'm pretty sure they know what is considered greifing or not.
Message Edited by RynnnDraggon on 06-16-2005 11:07 PM
I meant when he placed it, he had every right to, but once he was asked to remove it, then yes, it is greifing. Sorry for the confusion, I should have said it clearer.