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Thread: Property Tax

EldoonEcir
Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:02 pm
#1

I looked for the answer, call me lazy, are harvesters counted for property tax. And what about cantinas and hospitals and other player owned buildings. Will their maintenance be upped for property tax as well?



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Eldoon Ecir

Your Friendly Neighborhood Doctor/TKM
Lost Fellowship of Souls (LOST)
Joshie
Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:38 pm
#2

All structures that require maintenance will be affected by property tax. The only structure I can think of that doesn't have a maintenance rate is a minefield.
EnSab
Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:39 pm
#3

Yes sort of. The way I've gathered it, the property tax is a percentage. So say a harvester has a 60cr/hr maintence and the tax is 10% for property. Your maintence fee would then be 66cr/hr. With 60 going to the maintence fee <--SWG's eats it and the property tax going to the city Treasury.

Refah
Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:50 am
#4

Does anyone has experience with this kind of tax?

Does it work right for citizen structures?
Does someone knows if also structures from non-citizens are affected?





Refah Deon, Heaven/Tatooine (Chimaera)
Visit Heaven at -525 4070 near Mos Entha
www.heaven-city.ne
All ressources for 2cpu vendor in mall
Jaspor
Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:04 am
#5

Yes. Yes. And Yes.




Anything within your city boundary that pays maintenance will be taxed, including harvesters. It does not matter whether or not the owner is a citizen or not, they will be taxed.




Jaspor
Master Politician / Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer
Imperial Colonel / Imperial Pilot Ace
Guildmaster of Guild of the Zodiac - Constellation, Naboo


BT-Trajan
Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:09 am
#6

Jaspor said it all.


Yes

Yes and

Yes



Hadrian Augustus
Mayor and Master Architect of Aurora
Naboo, Flurry Server


Catapultam habeo.
Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

Translation: I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.
Refah
Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:58 am
#7

Thx, thx and thx.

I have raised a 50% property tax to fasten the decay of those inactive player houses. I will pay the tax back to all the active players (amount of one month tax rate on their structures) and the extra money I will get from the inactive player houses will go into the treasury.

Any opinions to this?





Refah Deon, Heaven/Tatooine (Chimaera)
Visit Heaven at -525 4070 near Mos Entha
www.heaven-city.ne
All ressources for 2cpu vendor in mall
Jaspor
Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:37 am
#8

A reasonable and popular tactic.


Though how effective it is will depend entirely on just how much extra maintenance those inactive houses have in them. And there's no way to tell. :/





Jaspor
Master Politician / Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer
Imperial Colonel / Imperial Pilot Ace
Guildmaster of Guild of the Zodiac - Constellation, Naboo


KJFett
Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:47 am
#9






Refah wrote:
Thx, thx and thx.

I have raised a 50% property tax to fasten the decay of those inactive player houses. I will pay the tax back to all the active players (amount of one month tax rate on their structures) and the extra money I will get from the inactive player houses will go into the treasury.

Any opinions to this?






So.....as mayor, you are going to greif other players who lived there first by stealing their moneywith taxation and placingtheir money inyour treasury, and destroying all the items in their house?They put money in their house to lastx-number months and now you come along...steal it resulting in their house burning down and all their items getting destoyed and this seems like a good idea?



I hope you at least have the manors to name a statue in town after them...seeings how they PAID FOR YOUR TOWN WITH ALL THEIR MONEY AND ALL THEIR ITEMS!


What you are doing is nothing short of busting down the door, taking all their items and emptying their maint pool, selling it all on the bazzar and dropping it in your own wallet.


CSRs should ban mayors that purposefully jack taxes up to destroy housing. What you are doing is horrible!


Maybe you shouldn't of dropped your city there? Ohhh that's right...it's their loss you were to lazy to move your house to a place so that you didn't greif them. Their bad..shame on them. Steal all their stuff!

Message Edited by KJFett on 07-28-2004 11:48 AM



Anika Mon'Sulu
Jaspor
Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:04 pm
#10






KJFett wrote:


So.....as mayor, you are going to greif other players who lived there first by stealing their moneywith taxation and placingtheir money inyour treasury, and destroying all the items in their house?They put money in their house to lastx-number months and now you come along...steal it resulting in their house burning down and all their items getting destoyed and this seems like a good idea?





He didn't say they were there first.... He said they were inactive...Which probably means they are no longer playing.. And hopefully means he has already made attempts to contact them.


If they are Active players, they will realize when their maintenance is low, and can ask the Mayor why he raised the taxes. If they are Active players, I believe he said that he will reimburse them the amount the additional taxes cost them. If they are Active players, (whether they lived there before the city was there or not,) they should not have to worry about losing their house and items.


If they are NOT Active... well, either they're coming back, or they aren't.. If they're not coming back, they won't miss their stuff. If they are coming back, hopefully they have taken enough precautions (ie, friends watching their maintenance, checking on it once in awhile, putting in MORE than enough to cover their expected hiatus length, moving their valuable items to their bank safety deposit box) to avoid losing their stuff.





Jaspor
Master Politician / Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer
Imperial Colonel / Imperial Pilot Ace
Guildmaster of Guild of the Zodiac - Constellation, Naboo


KJFett
Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:35 pm
#11






Jaspor wrote:





KJFett wrote:


So.....as mayor, you are going to greif other players who lived there first by stealing their moneywith taxation and placingtheir money inyour treasury, and destroying all the items in their house?They put money in their house to lastx-number months and now you come along...steal it resulting in their house burning down and all their items getting destoyed and this seems like a good idea?





He didn't say they were there first.... He said they were inactive...Which probably means they are no longer playing.. And hopefully means he has already made attempts to contact them.


If they are Active players, they will realize when their maintenance is low, and can ask the Mayor why he raised the taxes. If they are Active players, I believe he said that he will reimburse them the amount the additional taxes cost them. If they are Active players, (whether they lived there before the city was there or not,) they should not have to worry about losing their house and items.


If they are NOT Active... well, either they're coming back, or they aren't.. If they're not coming back, they won't miss their stuff. If they are coming back, hopefully they have taken enough precautions (ie, friends watching their maintenance, checking on it once in awhile, putting in MORE than enough to cover their expected hiatus length, moving their valuable items to their bank safety deposit box) to avoid losing their stuff.







Whether they were there first, or closed up shop while in town, raising taxes specifically to destroy homes is greifing. Active players or not...it's the same thing. We all know taxes are good, but to RAISETHOSE TAXES WITH THE SOLE PURPOSE TO DESTROY A HOUSE CAN NOT BE EXCUSED. Too many Mayors are so mad that SOE has tied their hands behind their backs that they are greifing players instead of trying to work in the system responsibly, and work with SOE to get new abilities installed. Instead, they come up with dumb greifing ideas like this and blocking houses with lamps like another poster..which only makes us look worse to SOE and the CSRs. We are our own worse enemies in this game. Start acting like mayors and be diplomats for EVERYONE in the city or close your accounts and move on.


My city has buildings in it the same as yours....did i raise the tax to get rid of them? NO...I redeigned the city to work them into it. There are always alternatives to be done. This is NOT an alternative. It is greifing.





Anika Mon'Sulu
Refah
Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:23 am
#12

No, its no griefing. I think you should think better about it.

I KNOW that the players are inactive. They said that they will leave but let there houses (and there vendors) in town. The House signs are named with: "R.I.P. [name of the owner]" or "[name of player] is dead". Friends of them told me, that they have cancelled there accounts.

There are no houses in my city that were there before me. Every owner of a house that came in my city with a grow got an E-Mail from me. And either they become a full citizen or they moved away but I try not to get rid of unwanted active player.

Anyway, writing that I grief my citizens makes me very angry. I know that there are some mayor who act not very diplomatic. But sorry, to act here diplomatic would mean to get to know the phonenumbers of the players, phone them and ask them to remove there houses. Sorry, I have a RL where I have many other things to do then this. I was thinking about this a long time before I raise the tax. But to see so many players, who would like to move into my town and I cannot give them a place, because there are some old houses blocking good places.

You ask for the items in their houses? If I will give them the money for it, when they come back. Well, I would do it, but I think I will not pay many credits, because they are empty!!!

Call someone else a griefer but not me.





Refah Deon, Heaven/Tatooine (Chimaera)
Visit Heaven at -525 4070 near Mos Entha
www.heaven-city.ne
All ressources for 2cpu vendor in mall
KJFett
Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:12 pm
#13






Refah wrote:
No, its no griefing. I think you should think better about it.

I KNOW that the players are inactive. They said that they will leave but let there houses (and there vendors) in town. The House signs are named with: "R.I.P. [name of the owner]" or "[name of player] is dead". Friends of them told me, that they have cancelled there accounts.

There are no houses in my city that were there before me. Every owner of a house that came in my city with a grow got an E-Mail from me. And either they become a full citizen or they moved away but I try not to get rid of unwanted active player.

Anyway, writing that I grief my citizens makes me very angry. I know that there are some mayor who act not very diplomatic. But sorry, to act here diplomatic would mean to get to know the phonenumbers of the players, phone them and ask them to remove there houses. Sorry, I have a RL where I have many other things to do then this. I was thinking about this a long time before I raise the tax. But to see so many players, who would like to move into my town and I cannot give them a place, because there are some old houses blocking good places.

You ask for the items in their houses? If I will give them the money for it, when they come back. Well, I would do it, but I think I will not pay many credits, because they are empty!!!

Call someone else a griefer but not me.





Your not a greifer? My saying that raising taxes is a greif on othere players isn't justmy peronal opinion. The game rules say you are a greifer. Look at what you are doing!!!! You are taking their money without their approval. You are destroying all their items...and why? So you can drop a house there because its a good spot? Who are you to judge that someone will never come back? Sorry if the truth hurts. There is always another alternative. If you can't find it then step aside and give someone else a chance to make the puzzle pieces fit. If your city is so full of houses of dead accounts then you might as well close up shot...shutthe city hall down and start over. Greifing by any other name is still greifing and is never acceptable!


It has nothing to do with knowing people in RL. It has to do with working with what you have in an honerable fashion.



Anika Mon'Sulu
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