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Thread: What am I doing wrong?! Post Patch Depression!

snash0902
Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:02 am
#1

Getting over the frustration of not mastering politician which I would have on the pre-patch, I am now trying to get all my citizens to vote so i can get the same amount of xp I would have previously over the 3 week period.


Since the patch, I have emailed all citizens with a really nice email asking for their help by voting and thus being a more effective Mayor for their needs but only 20 out of 66 people have voted.


Before I ask the title question again for a reply, a brief description of the City and what I have done and contribute.


1) NO TAXES! Of any kind, I pay 420K to keep it up and running and NEVER ask for contributions.


2) City has the mod cons like; Shuttle, Garage, Cloning, Bank, NPC Trainers, Mission Terminals, a Hospital, Cantinas, a Mall, Large Gardens and free placement of Street Lamps, allowing to limit, on players footstep.


3) Due to restrictions on allowed NPC's, email sent out so citizens can vote for what they want and the top 12 placed.


4) Allow multiple houses per citizen if they require extra for storage.


5) City registered and a Medical Specialization. Asked if anyone wanted to be any different but never had a reply.


So, what am I doing wrong? I dont expect thanks or appreciation, I do it because I wanted to now wonder is it really worth it and the skill points I really need to do other professions.


Any suggestions on how I can better myself as a Mayor and encourage citizens to vote would be very much appreciated.



Many Thanks...



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furrycat
Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:52 am
#2

You probably aren't doing anything wrong. The citizens don't gain anything from voting for you. They don't lose anything through not voting for you. They won't influence the result of the election since there is no one standing against you. By asking them to vote you are hoping they will go out of their way to perform a pointless task for the sole purpose of doing you a favour.

Some of them have done. They respect the work you've done for them and are willing to make the effort. Others probably don't care so much, or aren't familiar enough with the system to realise that their votes are now the only means for you to progress. Or they were away from the city when they got the email and forgot about it by the time they came back. Or they haven't logged on recently. It's a shame you can't reward those who did vote (and bribe those who haven't) but of course the election is anonymous so that wouldn't be possible.




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Sighryn
Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:30 am
#3

Sounds like you are doing everything correctly.


20 out of 60 is a pretty good turnout from what I've experienced in two months of trying to take over for a mayor who has retired.



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TxRoadDawg
Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:32 pm
#4

you cant do much else besides hold their hand and walk them to the terminal to vote. until the winning mayor gets all teh abstained votes credited to them for xp points be grateful those that do vote actually take the time out to do it for you



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Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:59 pm
#5

I don't think you are doing anything wrong as has already been pointed out... there is nothing in it for the voters other than the satisfaction of helping you gain xp. As the city already has the mod cons that would benefit them, they probably see no point in voting now.

The one thing I would say is don't pay for the city out of your own pocket. The more that people are contributing to the city together, making it come alive together, the more likely they are to put themselves out to help you as they care about the city and it's mayor.

Having said that, you have had a pretty good turn out considering the number of citizens

Scoooter
Sun Nov 28, 2004 7:29 pm
#6

You should xp faster you get 750 per week in addition now



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MTolwyn
Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:15 pm
#7

there s no reasons for a citizen of an established city to vote. They don t get anything for it , just waste their time.

And even when you get all voting you have the risk to loose your exp through the exp cap.


so i ve once again to say, the last update is just another pain for a politician
snash0902
Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:38 am
#8

Thanks everyone for your posts, it was very much appreciated and I do feel alot better now.


Just as I know you all can appreciate it is frustrating especially as I would have mastered now and everything depends on their vote. But saying that, going by your posts, I am lucky that I have had a such a turnout.


Thanks again



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Teppoz
Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:44 am
#9

You could try sending another e-mail to them with something like:

Vote or your city is gone!


Start by taking their shuttleport away
Darthdarklord
Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:42 am
#10






snash0902 wrote:

Getting over the frustration of not mastering politician which I would have on the pre-patch, I am now trying to get all my citizens to vote so i can get the same amount of xp I would have previously over the 3 week period.


Since the patch, I have emailed all citizens with a really nice email asking for their help by voting and thus being a more effective Mayor for their needs but only 20 out of 66 people have voted.


Before I ask the title question again for a reply, a brief description of the City and what I have done and contribute.


1) NO TAXES! Of any kind, I pay 420K to keep it up and running and NEVER ask for contributions.


2) City has the mod cons like; Shuttle, Garage, Cloning, Bank, NPC Trainers, Mission Terminals, a Hospital, Cantinas, a Mall, Large Gardens and free placement of Street Lamps, allowing to limit, on players footstep.


3) Due to restrictions on allowed NPC's, email sent out so citizens can vote for what they want and the top 12 placed.


4) Allow multiple houses per citizen if they require extra for storage.


5) City registered and a Medical Specialization. Asked if anyone wanted to be any different but never had a reply.


So, what am I doing wrong? I dont expect thanks or appreciation, I do it because I wanted to now wonder is it really worth it and the skill points I really need to do other professions.


Any suggestions on how I can better myself as a Mayor and encourage citizens to vote would be very much appreciated.



Many Thanks...







As the mayor of a city since day one you will find that a large % of people living in your city don't care about your city. Most of the time all they care about is a shuttle port trainers and a clone center..


They would alos care if you charged taxes.. im sure if you uped taxes you would get some nice responses


Most of the people playing this game only care about there own personal wealth and the skilling of there toon... asking people to vote for you is nothing more then a pain for the people of your city....and just like your city my city of 70 i had 22 vote for me so far as well with 2 mails sent already...other posters nailed it streight...if your city has everything people dont see the need to vote...and also about 99% of the people that play this game don't even know houw you get exp in the first place...some people think you go out and kill NPC's for exp like the rest of us lol...


Trying to get most people to vote is like pulling teeth...as they have to take time out of there game time to do somthing that does nothing for them at all.


Since the last change of rules...I have been thinking alot latly about wether or not being a mayor is even worth it at all....It's a hassle to get people to vote..people complain about taxes all the time even if its like $3000 a week which anyone can make in 10 minutes or less. I alwase have to dump my own money into the city..or ask people to donate money...I use up large amounts of skill points so that i can make a change once a month or so...(well more so for trainers with i change on a weekly basis) but other then that all in all...Being mayor used to be fun but its losing its luster now,,,as the new patch made more work for mayors and has not gave them any benifits.


I know have to watch out more now for hostal takeovers.. I have to BUG everyone for my EXP and the costs to run citys are no different then before....(to expensive for what its worth)....I don't know how much longer ill be willing to grind out 450k+ $$$$ every week any more, just so that other people can usea shuttle port!!!! (as that is the only major + to a city)






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DaQuilla
Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:49 am
#11

Appart from 20 votes out of 60 being pretty good ... appart from players generally being very uninvolved in such communities ... I see some reasons why some players might not care ...




snash0902 wrote:


1) NO TAXES! Of any kind, I pay 420K to keep it up and running and NEVER ask for contributions.

So if they haven't paid for it, they won't care if it's broken as much as if they have put in a lot of their own time or money.


2) City has the mod cons like; Shuttle, Garage, Cloning, Bank, NPC Trainers, Mission Terminals, a Hospital, Cantinas, a Mall, Large Gardens and free placement of Street Lamps, allowing to limit, on players footstep.

So if the city already has everything there's no need to put in more work - or so many lazy players might think


3) Due to restrictions on allowed NPC's, email sent out so citizens can vote for what they want and the top 12 placed.

More XP can't really help you here, can it?


4) Allow multiple houses per citizen if they require extra for storage.

Not really special for me - should be a standard


5) City registered and a Medical Specialization. Asked if anyone wanted to be any different but never had a reply.

Again ... if your city is already providing everything, why vote?


So, what am I doing wrong? I dont expect thanks or appreciation, I do it because I wanted to now wonder is it really worth it and the skill points I really need to do other professions.


Any suggestions on how I can better myself as a Mayor and encourage citizens to vote would be very much appreciated.

My only suggestion would be to try and get all your 60 citizens to regularly and activly take part in city activities. Do small but fun events (large events don't really bring much more attention, but cost much more effort), have regular and unregular RP parties, do some "city-hunting" for non-RP'lers ... and give several citizens some kind of organisation job so they really have to activly help out with their own free time ... this way they will deffinatly get an attachment to the city because it's their own sweat in it ...


... but I have to add that this is really hard to do, and even harder to maintain






And to those who say you get more XP now through the 750 XP every week ... these are equivalent to only 7 and a half normal votes ... and considering 20 out of 60 is a rather good value ... you still lose over 30 votes worth of XP every week using this particulare example (I still like this voting system better because it actually makes a politician out of the mayor, it requires active campaigning to keep the city and gather XP ... now if only there were a use for my 60k XP I have already stored )



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snash0902
Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:57 am
#12

I think the taking away the shuttleport and introducing taxes suggestions would be hilarious! You can only imagine what sort of impact that would have!


But for now, I am happy with the final votes of 26 which isnt too bad when you consider that people dont care and indeed why should they when they have everything they want? That is too true! And its only because of those 26 who did make the effort I wont be making any drastic changes...yet!


Thanks again everyone for your posts and honest comments. I do appreciate them and if you are ever on Chimaera please come and visit, you will be more than welcomed! Only 2k from Theed or you can get a shuttle.



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