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Thread: Deadbeat tax petition

Sevarhin
Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:40 am
#1

Mayors need a way to apply tax to structures (houses at least) that are within city limits whose owner is not a citizen. If a mayor is paying the taxes out of his own pocket, anyone in the city can remove their residence but continue to benefit from the facilities and goodwill of the city. These people, since they aren't doing their part by even being a citizen, should pay tax at the discretion of the city - but I'm not going to penalize the entire city by applying a city-wide tax just to get rid of a freeloader.

And don't just allow a tax on structures that aren't a primary residence - the check needs to simply be whether or not the owner is a citizen, so that people with secondary structures in addition to their main house aren't penalized as well.




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Sevarhin
Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:18 pm
#2

/bump

We need a way to tax people at different levels based on whether they're a citizen or not. Deadbeat structures need to be taxable so that their owner provides their fair share of support to the city without penalizing the citizens.




Tranquility Shipyards
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Archrival
Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:24 pm
#3

Here is the way to sort it out.


if they are havesters, it will tell you who the owner is.


You send a polite! email saying your structure is in my City. Please move it or if you like become a citizen you be very welcomed.


9/10 that works. If not just wait in 2 weeks they will move it as they shift them.


If they are houses don't panic if they arnt citizens you still can place property tax, The structure is city ground there for legal to Tax it.





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Hunden
Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:46 pm
#4

correct.



even if they are not residents of the city, any structure that they own within the city, be it house, factory, extractor, faction base etc is subject to property tax. if they have a vender, then they are also subject to the sales tax (those that buy from the vender are at least)..



the one you can not hit them with is income tax. only residents pay this one.




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Sevarhin
Sat Jan 10, 2004 9:54 pm
#5

This isn't a temporary problem - it's a long term problem involving a city potentially (eventually) full of non-citizens, with no way to encourage citizenship by individuals maintaining houses and using up the land.

Offering a way to tax non-citizen property would be an easy way to:
1) encourage those people to declare residence (encouraging city participation is a good thing)
2) provide a source of income from those who are taking advantage of the city while giving absolutely nothing in return (tax-free cities are not that uncommon, and all that's usually asked in return is citizenship; this would allow them to choose non-citizenship, but balance that with supporting the city in other means).

Tools. Not nerfs. This would be a very helpful addition to the mayor's abilities.




Tranquility Shipyards
Vendor wp: -3291 5615 (Tranquility, Naboo)
Founder of Tranquility, Ahazi's first Player City

Youch1
Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:10 am
#6

Agree totally that mayors should be able to target individual structures and set an individual tax - but I guess it would be tricky to code and therefore an optimistic request.


We're in the same boat in that we want to "encourage" a few structures to move but don't want to place a city-wide tax.


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Kerawey
Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:12 am
#7

One idea i have to encourage home owners to declare citizenship is to allow citizens of that city to gain benefits from being a citizen such as reduced travel fee's for traveling to or from the city via shuttle port. Reduced cloning fees or insurance fees for citizens of that city, the specialization not required for this discount. Perhaps a reduced sales tax for citizens only. If a city uses the stronghold specialization all citizens would receive this bonus and not just Militla. Cant think of anything else..maybe you all can come up with some other benefits to declaring citizship.
ImpKleaner
Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:39 am
#8

/cityban the non-citizens



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