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Thread: Maybe you can help me figure out when this thing will poof.

DesktopSaki
Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:26 am
#1

In our town, we have four Merchant tents in front of the shuttleport. Two are controlled by players that are rarely if ever on, most likely quitting the game, so we're exploring what to do--feed them maintenance and hope no one loses much stock if there's a purge, replace them, etc.


For one of them, I checked to see who owned it, and it was an unfamiliar name. (I have admin to all four tents for other reasons.) I went to add the name to my friend's list, thinking it might be someone's alt, and got the message that the name was "not a valid friend's list entry."


1 - Does this mean what I think, that the person doesn't exist on our server anymore--that they were deleted? (The tent may have been part of a lot trade.) I can still add the names of people that I know have cancelled their accounts.


2 - Does that ensure that the tent will poof with the next purge?


3 - Why oh why can't mayors find out who owns stuff, and why oh why can't we move dead structures to the "bad part of town?" (Ok, # 3 is all rhetorical.)



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Sighryn
Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:52 am
#2

If the same had happened to me my first check would be if I had spelled the name correctly.



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67p912
Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:38 am
#3

I have a merchant tent who's owner did quit and it won't go away. It has been a few months or so. What can I do? I did a CSR ticket and they said they can't help me. I think I am stuck with the tent right in front of my shuttleport.


There needsto be a structure warn command. If the owner doesn't respond ownership gets transferred to the mayor. If the owner responds the structure doesn't get transferred.


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DesktopSaki
Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:02 pm
#4





Sighryn wrote:

If the same had happened to me my first check would be if I had spelled the name correctly.





I figured that I double checked the name went without saying, butI did, and had someone else try it as well. No luck, the name simply isn't valid.





67p912 wrote:

I have a merchant tent who's owner did quit and it won't go away. It has been a few months or so. What can I do? I did a CSR ticket and they said they can't help me. I think I am stuck with the tent right in front of my shuttleport.


There needsto be a structure warn command. If the owner doesn't respond ownership gets transferred to the mayor. If the owner responds the structure doesn't get transferred.


Chosen One

Mayor of Haven, Corellia






We can still use the tent at least, but we can't change the name. (I really wish other admins could rename.) At this point, we have four tents, none of which are owned by active players, most if not all of which will soon be cancelling their accounts.


Maybe we should just try to get the other three renamed things like, "Market Tent Alpha," or "Mos Omenos Merchants" just so we don't have to worry about the innards matching the outards anymore. Somehow, I don't think a tent named "Fireworks!" is going to draw a lot of people in to buy resources or armor. :>



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GTomlinson
Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:30 pm
#5






67p912 wrote:

I have a merchant tent who's owner did quit and it won't go away. It has been a few months or so. What can I do? I did a CSR ticket and they said they can't help me. I think I am stuck with the tent right in front of my shuttleport.


There needsto be a structure warn command. If the owner doesn't respond ownership gets transferred to the mayor. If the owner responds the structure doesn't get transferred.


Chosen One

Mayor of Haven, Corellia







I'm in EXACTLY the same situation in Hellfire City/Correllia/Lowca.


I got a hold of a CSR last night and he said it will probably go poof in another 4 months. I told him that I know the former owner and he has cancelled his account and doesn't want to reactivate his account just to get rid of a structure for me. I can supply the name and password of the account that owned that character. I can do whatever you want to verify that the former owner doesn't want the structure anymore out of game. But apparently that doesn't matter and 6 months of account cancellation isn't enough to get a CSR to remove a structure.




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BigfootKC
Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:36 am
#6

and with the new patch no house will ever go away if the owner leaves game without deleting it, or deletes the account owning it. First you can drain the owners bank, because the house will deduct maint from the bank.

But once the bank is empty the house will become Condemned and noone but the owner can enter it. The house will stay, but it will be unusable, brilliant move there devs!

Only time it will be deleted is when they do a character Purge, which i havent seen since i started 1½ year ago



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WinstonX
Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:35 pm
#7

that's why we need EMINENT DOMAIN power!
pammiesue
Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:34 am
#8



BigfootKC wrote:
and with the new patch no house will ever go away if the owner leaves game without deleting it, or deletes the account owning it. First you can drain the owners bank, because the house will deduct maint from the bank.

But once the bank is empty the house will become Condemned and noone but the owner can enter it. The house will stay, but it will be unusable, brilliant move there devs!

Only time it will be deleted is when they do a character Purge, which i havent seen since i started 1½ year ago





exactly, ive been trying for months on end to get one house moved and got the standard csr reply we cant move or redeed a players house etc etc.

well after about 9 months of waiting this player logged in to pass his stuff on to a friend who has also left the game, so thankfully i was on at the right time, and got everything, but mainly a house that was in the middle of my commerce area that can now be removed.

but we need some way of moving these houses/tent etc to the outskirts of town, or to redeed them and all the stuff in them to the person they belong to. this no poofing now of houses was in my opinion a huge mistake. yeah if the money is in the bank account take it out. but when thats gone take the stupid houses down or give the mayor the ability to move them. dont let them set there condemned where no one can enter them if you do that with the way that people come and go in this game you are going to have alot of player cities relocating just so they can add new citizens that actually play.



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PsychoticChipmunk
Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:03 am
#9






BigfootKC wrote:
and with the new patch no house will ever go away if the owner leaves game without deleting it, or deletes the account owning it. First you can drain the owners bank, because the house will deduct maint from the bank.

But once the bank is empty the house will become Condemned and noone but the owner can enter it. The house will stay, but it will be unusable, brilliant move there devs!

Only time it will be deleted is when they do a character Purge, which i havent seen since i started 1½ year ago




Actually according to CS I've talked to the house will delete itself 6 months after beign condemned. Meaning the best hope you can have of a house leaving is 7 monthsafter the initial maintenance running out (0 in the bank) which is the most unlikely scenario there is. They are doing something to try and geta work around for player cities though, was told as much from the CSR boards. Don't know what but something, and Pappi keeps eluding to tastey treats she can't talk about for us so....


As for a solution to your problem with the tents, put up streetlamps of various colors. Green means stocked and shoppable vendors, red means none. It wouldn't really help too much with the signs but who knows. Maybe try and get CSR's to change the sing name for you? Can't see that as griefing the owners or anything. Which also leads to the possiblity of the name. Was the name somewhat lude or reminiscent of characters in some series? If that's the case it may have been permissible long enough to get the tent down but then CS forced him to change it later and added that name to the unusable list?




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Namenerfed35
Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:00 pm
#10



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