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Watef_Evla

Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:27 pm

I am trying something new in my city.

I am giving my militia legislative capacity. It is still in the early stages. I plan to write a constitution, when I get around to it, that outlines the powers of this City Council.

For now though, we have a weekly meeting of the Militia, and I have divided the militia into four committees, each committee's job is to advise me on things that relate to one of the branches of the politician skill tree. (e.g. City Customization Committee advises and carry out policies relating to the overall layout of the city and the placement of decorations.

We may get to the point where tough issues come up. In that case we may do something like: a simple majority wins if the mayor is in favor of it, but if the mayor opposes it it requires a two-thirds majority.

At any rate it is still early, so I have yet to see how well it works, and whether it will make my job as mayor harder or easier.

Has anyone else tried anything like this in their city?

Bajeesus, if you are reading this, I think it would be great if the devs could give cities the option of using a system like the above. I knowI cando it without help from the devs but it would be cool if it was a real system because then the militia/city council members could get politician xp.

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Watef Ev'la

Mayor of New Anchorhead, Dantooine - Gorath Servor

Lesterk

Mon Feb 16, 2004 11:18 pm

#2

We have something like this running in our city, we have a senate built of representatives from eachPA in the city, the mayor is chosen from the senate. It works well, for the most part...you just have to be carefull of people who miss lots of meetings and people who try to control everything from the background( some people forget that the city is for everyone and not just for thier own gain). As long as most of the people in the group want what is best for the city you will do well.

I'm sure there are a few other cities that do this though.

Good luck.

Lester Kits -- Nightfall Legion -- Eclipse

Z0idberg

Mon Feb 16, 2004 11:41 pm

#3

I have been thinking about doing something like this. I usually just hold citywide meetings but recently they have just gotten too hectic for me to manage. I know a lot of cities do something along these lines, but I never thought of assigning them to a skill branch, great idea.

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jemelby

Mon Feb 16, 2004 11:47 pm

#4

Our city is a pure monarchy. As long as the original mayor stays interested, the system works well. Things are done much more efficiently with one mind, and one mind seldom has arguments with itself. The catch being... everywould have tohappy with the monarch. This is probobly a rare thing, and we are fourtunate, as the mayor of a 120+ city would be hard to beat in an election unless he took an active role in getting himself beaten.

Come to think of it, the player city political system could use a bit of tweaking in that area. There should be a 50/50 split of default votes in the event that someone else runs (25/25/25/25 for four candidates, etc....). This would make it a bit easier to unseat anrouge mayor.

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DrunkenRedneck

Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:51 am

#5

Yes we have. Complete with a town charter and constitution. An amazing player drafted them up from his legal experiences in RL. We use a councilman for planning, tourism, defense, foreign relations, and judges. Complete with a simple system of checks and abilities to vote in and out councilmember’s. If you’d like I’ll post his work here.

Watef_Evla

Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:02 pm

#6

DrunkenRedneck, wow, could you post your city's constitution and stuff? It would be very helpful.

Thanks

Watef Ev'la,

Mayor of New Anchorhead, Dantooine

Gorath Servor

DrunkenRedneck

Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:22 pm

#7

Yes, ill drop it to notepad after this town hall and post it.

DrunkenRedneck

Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:58 pm

#8

***********Interim Constitution of Forest Bay - First Draft*************

In recognition of the size and growth in Forest Bay (hereafter known as 'the city'), it is submitted that an interim council is necessary for the effective management of 'the city';

In recognition that 'the city' is to be, at all times, the central consideration of its residents and citizens;

The following constitution has been drafted and effected:

Article One

(a) Any constitutional amendment, must have the interest of 'the city' in mind

(b) Any constitutional amendment must be effected in accordance with 'Schedule I - Constitutional Amendment'.

Article Two

(a) The positions of 'Administration & Economics Minister', 'Public Affairs Minister' and the 'Minister for Homeland Defence' are hereby created. These are to be known as the 'Triumvirate Positions'

(b) The positions of 'Guilds & Associations Minister' and 'Minister for Justice' are hereby created

(c) The roles and responsibilities of Ministers is defined in 'Schedule II - Roles and Responsibilities of Ministers'

(d) The 'Commission for Town Planning' is hereby created.

(e) The role and responsibility of the 'Commission for Town Planning' is defined in 'Schedule III - Roles and Responsibilities of the 'Commission for Town Planning'’.

(f) Nominations for positions can only be put forward by citizens of 'the city' (as defined in 'Schedule IV - Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution')

(g) Positions are elected by a simple majority (as defined in 'Schedule IV - Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution')

(h) Positions will become available upon:

a. Resignation of the incumbent Minister (as defined in 'Schedule IV – Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution'); or

b. Removal of the incumbent Minister on a vote of no-confidence (as defined in 'Schedule IV – Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution'); or

c. Removal by way of inactivity or judicial review (as defined in 'Schedule IV - Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution');

DrunkenRedneck

Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:59 pm

#9

Schedule I - Constitutional Amendment

Procedure for constitutional amendment

1. Any citizen of ‘the city’ may put forward a constitutional amendment

2. Any amendments must be sent to the ‘Triumvirate’

3. The ‘Triumvirate’ must consider all valid constitutional amendments suggested

4. Each month, the 'Administration & Economics Minister' will advertise the constitutional amendments which he, in his absolute discretion, feels are most important

5. No more than five amendments may be advertised by the 'Administration & Economics Minister' each month.

6. The electorate will then have the opportunity to vote on the amendments. A simple majority will be required for each amendment.

General principles

1. Constitutional amendment is a device for advancing ‘the city’ and as such the ‘the city’ must always be in mind when drafting amendments.

2. Constitutional amendments must take the form of either (1) an amendment of existing provisions; or (2) addition of a new provisions.

3. Addition of new provisions may make reference to documents outside the ‘Constitution’ such as a Treaty or a code of practice, so as to give them legally binding effect.

Schedule II - Roles and Responsibilities of Ministers

(a) The roles and responsibilities of the 'Administration & Economics Minister' are hereby defined

1. The 'Administration & Economics Minister' is responsible for the effective administration of ‘the city’

2. The 'Administration & Economics Minister' is responsible for ensuring the economic stability of ‘the city’

3. The 'Administration & Economics Minister' is responsible for eliciting resources for the growth and stability of ‘the city’

4. The 'Administration & Economics Minister' is to sit on the Judicial Council (as defined in ‘Schedule IV – Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution’).

5. The 'Administration & Economics Minister' is to sit on the 'Commission for Town Planning' (as defined in ‘Schedule III - Roles and Responsibilities of the 'Commission for Town Planning'’)

6. The 'Administration & Economics Minister' is responsible for creating, amending and reneging treaties with other cities in agreement with the 'Minister for Homeland Defence' and 'Guilds & Associations Minister'

7. The 'Administration & Economics Minister' is responsible for creating and maintaining a ‘guide price list’ for use of citizen merchants.

8. The 'Administration & Economics Minister' is responsible for prosecution of those in flagrant abuse of the ‘guide price list’

9. The 'Administration & Economics Minister' is responsible for the administration of constitutional amendment.

(b) The roles and responsibilities of the 'Public Affairs Minister' are hereby defined

1. The 'Public Affairs Minister' is responsible for the effective publicising of ‘the city’

2. The 'Public Affairs Minister' is responsible for ensuring good relations between ‘the city’ and its citizens

3. The 'Public Affairs Minister' is responsible for ensuring good relations between ‘the city’ and its allies

4. The 'Public Affairs Minister' is responsible for ensuring good relations between ‘the city’ and non-citizens.

5. The 'Public Affairs Minister' may be asked for an opinion by the ‘Judicial Council’ (as defined in ‘Schedule IV – Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution’) on matters which concern public affairs.

6. The 'Public Affairs Minister' may be asked for an opinion by the 'Commission for Town Planning' (as defined in ‘Schedule III - Roles and Responsibilities of the 'Commission for Town Planning'’) on matters which concern public affairs.

(c) The roles and responsibilities of the 'Minister for Homeland Defence' are hereby defined

1. The 'Minister for Homeland Defence' is responsible for maintaining the defence of ‘the city’ at all times and shall include creating, organising and maintaining a city militia as soon as practicably possible.

2. The 'Minister for Homeland Defence' is responsible for creating, amending and reneging treaties with other cities in agreement with the 'Administration & Economics Minister' and 'Guilds & Associations Minister'

3. The 'Minister for Homeland Defence' is responsible for liasing with Rebel Command

4. The 'Minister for Homeland Defence' is responsible for overseeing the placing, moving and removal of Rebel buildings and troops within ‘the city’

5. The 'Minister for Homeland Defence' is responsible for court-marshalling troops under his control for offences against ‘the city’.

6. The 'Minister for Homeland Defence' is responsible for bringing a civil action in front of the ‘Judicial Council’ (as defined in ‘Schedule IV – Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution’) for citizens who commit offences against ‘the city’.

7. An offence against ‘the city’ is defined in ‘Schedule IV – Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution’.

9. The 'Minister for Homeland Defence' may be asked for an opinion by the 'Commission for Town Planning' (as defined in ‘Schedule III - Roles and Responsibilities of the 'Commission for Town Planning'’) on matters which concern homeland defence

10. The 'Minister for Homeland Defence' is to sit on the Judicial Council (as defined in ‘Schedule IV – Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution’).

(d) The roles and responsibilities of the 'Guilds & Associations Minister' are hereby defined

1. The 'Guilds & Associations Minister' is responsible for creation, maintaining and removal of guilds and associations within ‘the city’

2. The 'Guilds & Associations Minister' is not responsible for the internal affairs of a guild unless he is a member of that guild.

3. The 'Guilds & Associations Minister' is responsible for liasing with the 'Administration & Economics Minister' for the effective funding of the guilds and associations under his control

4. The 'Guilds & Associations Minister' is responsible for liasing with the 'Public Affairs Minister' for the effective publicising of the guilds and associations under his control

5. The 'Guilds & Associations Minister' is responsible for liasing with the 'Minister for Homeland Defence' so far as guilds and associations under his control are associated with the defence of ‘the city’.

6. The 'Guilds & Associations Minister' is responsible for creating, amending and reneging treaties with other cities in agreement with the 'Minister for Homeland Defence' and 'Administration & Economics Minister'

7. The 'Guilds & Associations Minister' may be asked for an opinion by the 'Commission for Town Planning' (as defined in ‘Schedule III - Roles and Responsibilities of the 'Commission for Town Planning'’) on matters which concern the placing or residences of guilds and associations

(e) The roles and responsibilities of the 'Minister for Justice' are hereby defined

1. The 'Minister for Justice' is responsible for the administration of the ‘Judicial Council’ (as defined in ‘Schedule IV – Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution’)

2. The 'Minister for Justice' is responsible for ensuring that ‘the Constitution’ is adhered to by Ministers and citizens alike

3. The 'Minister for Justice' is responsible for the prosecution of those who commit an offence against ‘the city’ (as defined in ‘Schedule IV – Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution’).

4. The 'Minister for Justice' is responsible for the creation and amendment of a ‘code of conduct’ which should direct citizens on acceptable practices within ‘the city’.

5. The 'Minister for Justice’ is to preside over the Judicial Council (as defined in ‘Schedule IV – Procedures and Institutions of the Constitution’).

DrunkenRedneck

Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:02 pm

#10

Thats the meat of it. We have dreams of reaching a large size, despite the freaking city caps. We need the help of rebel guild to make it all happen, but we think it will. And this, being the framework for the town, should help greatly.

eltucco

Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:28 am

#11

We do this in the city that I am mayor of. Its great because it lets others get involved and be part of the city and the mayor can delegate some of the work out.

It has worked great for us.

Chasey,
Droideka Point-Lok

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