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Thread: How many of you have bonked city maintainance costs?

Pappi
Fri May 21, 2004 5:58 pm
#1

I remember a lot of complains about the weekly maintainance estimate not equal to the actual maintainance charged. If your city has this problem, please give me some info:

  • city name

  • location

  • correct cost (would be great if you can give me a break down)

  • what you're actually charged

  • any other information


I'm hoping to get some attention on this issue, so any help would be appreciated

edit: edited because I have horrible html skills and messed up the format, sorry O.o

Message Edited by Pappi on 05-22-2004 06:41 PM




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DaQuilla
Sat May 22, 2004 6:03 am
#2

Is this about a different amount being taken from city treasury and sent via mail than was mentioned in the city terminal before the update - or is the charged amount even different to what is mailed to the mayor?


First would include cities that rise in rank after (or during) the update - thus the maintenance for the city is higher than what was originaly mentioned in the city terminal. Last I haven't noticed or even heard about - maybe I should check that out if you tell me what's supposed to happen, how to notice it.


A bigger problem we are having is that sales tax isn't working correctly - apparantly sometimes the sales tax go back to the merchant - very rarely it seams to go into the city treasury - but most of the time it looks like it disapears in the nirvana. We had to turn off the sales tax due to merchants complaining about the unpopular moneydrain from their sales/their customers compared to it not giving any benifits.


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Pappi
Sat May 22, 2004 7:34 pm
#3

hrm, lets expand this to any bugs related to a discrepancy between the treasury, maintainance, and everything else... If your city is experiencing any of these, please put down as much info as you can manage to find, and I'll see what I can do




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Hvzeda
Mon May 24, 2004 8:34 am
#4

I posted this complaint a while back.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Politician&message.id=31644#M31644





Kyrie
I came into the SWG universe as an entertainer
and performed to a crowded cantina in Mos Espa.
I will use a respec and become an entertainer again,
pull out my last pet from my creature handler days
and dance in an empty cantina in Mos Espa and disconnect from the game forever.
Pappi
Mon May 24, 2004 4:00 pm
#5



Hvzeda wrote:

I posted this complaint a while back.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Politician&message.id=31644#M31644




are you still being charged the same wrong number every week? yikes... I'll try to bring it up, no promises though




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Hvzeda
Mon May 24, 2004 10:06 pm
#6






Pappi wrote:





Hvzeda wrote:

I posted this complaint a while back.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Politician&message.id=31644#M31644







are you still being charged the same wrong number every week? yikes... I'll try to bring it up, no promises though



Still being overcharged that same amount. Thanks Pappi




Kyrie
I came into the SWG universe as an entertainer
and performed to a crowded cantina in Mos Espa.
I will use a respec and become an entertainer again,
pull out my last pet from my creature handler days
and dance in an empty cantina in Mos Espa and disconnect from the game forever.
DaQuilla
Mon May 24, 2004 11:32 pm
#7

I have a simular bug (only it's the other way around - so I rather have it not corrected ).


Redeeding a garden next to the shuttle port I didn't pay attention and accidently redeeded the shuttle (common mistake ) - this lead to the shuttle being buged (chasis of port still ingame - only without droid and terminal - people still landing there, but not able to shuttle away - deed of shuttle in inventory, but shuttle resets itself after server down) ...


The nice side effect was, that the 25k for the shuttle port were subtracted from the city maintenance and never added again. Maybe this is something simular. Did you ever redeed gardens or other sturctures? Maybe while in an update phase (takes a few minutes to hours) - maybe the city doesn't register redeeds in this time - and when you placed the buildings later they simply added up.



Kheraba City - . - . - . - . - M a y o r - . - . - . - . - . - . - Etraes'Khar
A place to call your home - . - . - . - . - . - . - . - . - . - Many are called, few are chosen
- Where they play that Jizzz - The Green Fizz - Player Cantina Snacks&Drinks

- Tatooine - -3230 -6150 - Gorath Galaxy

Pappi
Mon May 24, 2004 11:49 pm
#8


DaQuilla wrote:
I have a simular bug (only it's the other way around - so I rather have it not corrected ).
Redeeding a garden next to the shuttle port I didn't pay attention and accidently redeeded the shuttle (common mistake ) - this lead to the shuttle being buged (chasis of port still ingame - only without droid and terminal - people still landing there, but not able to shuttle away - deed of shuttle in inventory, but shuttle resets itself after server down) ...
The nice side effect was, that the 25k for the shuttle port were subtracted from the city maintenance and never added again. Maybe this is something simular. Did you ever redeed gardens or other sturctures? Maybe while in an update phase (takes a few minutes to hours) - maybe the city doesn't register redeeds in this time - and when you placed the buildings later they simply added up.



hehe, my maintainance report currently tells me my city hall is -5k (!?! O.o), I've been trying to get it fixed, but I can't grab the QAs' attention long enough to find the problem hopefully we can submit a massive request if we get enough cases documented

edit: I make little sense when tired O.o

Message Edited by Pappi on 05-24-2004 11:53 PM




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DaQuilla
Tue May 25, 2004 12:22 pm
#9










Pappi wrote:



hehe, my maintainance report currently tells me my city hall is -5k (!?! O.o), I've been trying to get it fixed








Why would you ever want to get that fixed


(and tell me - how did you do that)





Kheraba City - . - . - . - . - M a y o r - . - . - . - . - . - . - Etraes'Khar
A place to call your home - . - . - . - . - . - . - . - . - . - Many are called, few are chosen
- Where they play that Jizzz - The Green Fizz - Player Cantina Snacks&Drinks

- Tatooine - -3230 -6150 - Gorath Galaxy

Pappi
Tue May 25, 2004 12:26 pm
#10

I got the city that way O.o I have NO clue, but I guess Vandessa bugged the city nicely while testing with it... that's my best guess.

well, from a personal point of view I don't mind having it not fixed, but it's not fair and doesn't feel kosher, ya know?




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Chibi-Bar
Wed May 26, 2004 8:24 am
#11

main problem is that we have no clue how much money are coming in!! I have sale taxes and shuttle taxes... I can't tell if they are coming in correctly or deduct....


We need a better tool to tell us....


How much are we getting per week in Garage, shuttle, sales tax, property tax, and income tax (to those that apply)


vs. Spending in break down.. if this information is available at the city teminal.. it will help us a whole lot to see if the money is spending correctly..


*verification* I took off income tax a while back, but some people tells me that if a user is not log on he/she will not be charge.. I use to calculate X credits per citizens and of course it comes up short in our income, but I figure that was the case and kinda drop it.. now our city only charge shuttle, garage, and sales tax.





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Drop off Vendor Cynthia: -4752 -4341
Architect Shop Vendor Sasha:-4756 -4341
Citizen of Blood Gulch, Dantooine
Jaspor
Wed May 26, 2004 2:22 pm
#12


Here's a few:


* When removing Trainers, their cost is NOT removed from the overall city maintenance cost. So, if you pick up and place new trainers to keep up with demand of your citizens, you'll be paying for a bunch of "ghosted" trainer costs. I think someone said the same thing happens with mission terminals, but I haven't tried this.


* Income tax seems to be collected rather inconsistently... It's definitely not on the same time schedule as the weekly city maintenance. And sometimes citizens do not get an email saying they have paid their tax for a week.... But then the following week, they get it again just fine.


* As Mayor, I have never gotten an email explaining that any citizens were unable (or unwilling?) to pay their income tax. Has anybody EVER gotten this email?


* Sales tax seems pretty darned inconsistent too.... Myself and several merchants in town have done several tests, and gotten different results each time... Sometimes the "tax" goes to the merchant who owns the vendor, sometimes it goes to the treasury, and sometimes it goes to neither and vanishes into thin air.


* From the usually consistent rate our treasury amount goes up during the week, I'm inclined to believe that the Sales Tax is broken most of the time. Because we do have some big sales going on now and then that would seem to bring in a noticeable amount of cash on a single day.


*And last but not least, I've had several conversations with some helpful CSRs who attempted to look into the problems. Although they acknowledged that there DID seem to be a problem with our taxes being collected, it seems that the logs indicated we were getting SOME of the taxes, but not all of them. Since there was no way for them to tell exactly how much money we lost, they refused to reimburse us.


Anyways, if anybody's going to look into it, our town is Constellation on Naboo, Chilastra server.


I also have an almost daily log of our treasury level for the past 2+ months.


Message Edited by Jaspor on 05-26-2004 02:26 PM



Jaspor
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Pappi
Wed May 26, 2004 2:50 pm
#13

guys... this is the thread to report individual instances of the bug, rather than the problem and possible solutions (please put that into the bug thread.) I was going to send this whole thread to a CSR, but now I have to pick out the cases




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