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Thread: simple question with surely no simple answer

Refah
Thu May 27, 2004 1:07 am
#1

Whats with the 3rd option

Wait for the inactive player rule.


It will be nearly impossible to bring down a lvl 4 city. You have to infiltrate it with more then 55 player who votes you. You cannot get the votes of the old citizens, because they must be inactive otherwise it would be not a ghost town. Its nearly impossible to take this way.





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MTolwyn
Thu May 27, 2004 2:33 am
#2






Refah wrote:
Whats with the 3rd option

Wait for the inactive player rule.




well they ve removed it so i doubt that it will come back in time





Refah wrote:
It will be nearly impossible to bring down a lvl 4 city. You have to infiltrate it with more then 55 player who votes you. You cannot get the votes of the old citizens, because they must be inactive otherwise it would be not a ghost town. Its nearly impossible to take this way.



i know it s not easy but possible

DaQuilla
Thu May 27, 2004 3:07 am
#3

Although (if you achieve your goal) you would have used all game systems as they were intended (took a city over through votes - maybe you just need to pay the citizens - used the only feature you have in the city hall structure terminal - /destroy :/ ) ...

... I remeber a post that a CSR intervened in the destruction of a city (the citizens also stating it was "griefing") - I'm unsure, if the ex-mayor was banned - I think the city was supposed to be rebuilt by CSRs (there was a considerable amount of arguing if a CSR had the right to do that) - now if the deleting player wasn't banned, it would be interessting to know what would happen if a CSR with simulare intent to go this far (rebuilt a "legaly" destroyed city) would be able to decrease the rank of the city (yours?) that would take it's place in the rank 4 limit (with the luck of getting the time right).

But as you would try to take over the city with the sole intent to destroy it - yes, I would think this act can easily be declared as "griefing" - unless of course you bought the citizens with their knowledge of your intent - but then you could just buy the citizens out of that city, into yours or somewhere else o.O



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MTolwyn
Thu May 27, 2004 11:26 am
#4

well i asked the same question in a csr ticket and got an answer


taking over a city by outvoting or bribing the mayor is a legal game technique


MTolwyn
Thu May 27, 2004 12:57 pm
#5

Is destroying a city griefing and a reason for a ban or not?


why?


simple, i m one of the many lvl 3 cities mayor who get his weekly "city cap - screw you" mail

sometime ago the invented the 6-week inactive rule that gave us hope to see some 1st gen ghost towns fall and make room for the 2nd gen cities

but cause of whining they removed this rule again, taking away a great hope we had

and now

now TH says it officially that the cap won t rise and there ll be no changes at all before JTL


now i ve 2 options

a) i can tell my citizens to relocate to a lvl 4 city and disband ours

b) we start to take down some of the ghost cities, simply by outvoting or bribing their mayor and destroying the city
Taorah
Sat May 29, 2004 9:17 am
#6

You might want to try contacting all the citizens, just because someone declares residency somewhere else does not mean they lose it in the last city they were in. If this is the case you might have active players who think they are not citizens in your city any longer and would ignore any emails they get regarding your city. They would have to go to the city management term and revoke thier citizenship manually from there.



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DaQuilla
Sat May 29, 2004 4:43 pm
#7






MTolwyn wrote:

well i asked the same question in a csr ticket and got an answer


taking over a city by outvoting or bribing the mayor is a legal game technique








taking over the city is not the problem here - deleting it is ... especialy taking over a city with the only intent of deleting it



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Kerico
Sat May 29, 2004 9:45 pm
#8


Getting elected on the platform that you want to dismantle a city is not griefing imo.


Consider the case where someone drops a city hall next to a bunch of existing houses. The existing people start getting hit with taxes. They don't want a city. They elect a mayor who destroys city hall.


Only one time have I read here that a mayor has been warned (banned?) for threatening to destroy the city hall. Lemme see if I can remember what happened...


Basically they mayor somehow got into arguement with the the guild/citizens that lived there. He threatened to destroy the city hall. They said ok destroy it, we'll put a new hall down. If he got voted out, he said he'd destroy it and put harvester in it's spot blocking any future city hall. They caught it with chat log and /report. Since he was intentionally trying to damage other players game experience, it was deemed 'griefing' and a new mayor was elected.


That is the only time I remember reading about it on this board. I posted on the tread.. you could go through my post history if you wanted to try and find it.. I think it was near the start of the year.



Edit: Found the thread...


Heres the link http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Politician&message.id=22347&page=1

Message Edited by Kerico on 05-29-2004 09:51 PM

LadyPirate
Sun May 30, 2004 4:40 am
#9

I feel your pain I really do. I am currently mayor of one of those ghost towns on Naboo on Eclipse server.



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jeanine
Sun May 30, 2004 8:40 pm
#10

I am new to the politician profession, and i want to know what happens to my city if i delete my alt char who is mayor atm (but my other char is running against it and is in the lead) ... I started a city with my alt character and then decided i would like to be mayor with my main character so i am running for mayor against myself (alt char). Now I am planning on deleting my alt char and wonder what will happen to the city if the mayor disappears before the new elections go through (which my main character will win). Can anyone advise me on this?


Very much appreciated.


Jeanine <mafia>


Mayor of Chicago


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DaQuilla
Mon May 31, 2004 2:36 am
#11






jeanine wrote:

I am new to the politician profession, and i want to know what happens to my city if i delete my alt char who is mayor atm (but my other char is running against it and is in the lead) ... I started a city with my alt character and then decided i would like to be mayor with my main character so i am running for mayor against myself (alt char). Now I am planning on deleting my alt char and wonder what will happen to the city if the mayor disappears before the new elections go through (which my main character will win). Can anyone advise me on this?


Very much appreciated.





DON'T DO IT !!!


Wait until your main is valid new mayor of the city (which might take a week longer than the vote - see other bug report here in forum).


If you delete the present mayor the city will be destroyed !



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A place to call your home - . - . - . - . - . - . - . - . - . - Many are called, few are chosen
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