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Thread: CITY COST TOO HIGH, HAS TO BE LOWERED
RynnnDraggon wrote:
TxRoadDawg wrote:
Traie wrote:
Alright everyone. Guess we're all wrong because there's A city that can make good use of it's income. I guess we should all pull up stakes and move to Dantooine.
TxRoadDawg wrote:
FEH, ive ran Sweet Water, Dantooine on Bria and that town has made 1mil + a week 300+k a week profit regardless of what the devs have done. no sales tax property tax income taxes whatsoever. planted a few parking garages and a shuttleport and thats all. dont come in crying to nerf anything just becuase you made poor planning decisions or cant get a group up just to run a few combat missions to pay your expenses
gee am i the ONLY one outta 20+ servers to get their town self sufficient ROFL, almost makes me feel godly thinking about that. my points simple, you KNOW a town cost money to run when you start one, if you dont plan out how to pay for it its YOUR fault. ive spent enough time strolling these forums to know by now begging for a nerf only leads to trouble. when was the last time cites got ANYTHING new? parking garage maybe? instead of asking for new ways to EARN income for a city like having billboards to rent out for advertising pr some type of casino/hotel for gaming profits someone just wants the devs to give us something for nothing again.
last 2 major issues this proffesion had i recall involved skill points versus benefits to be a master politician and electing mayors. the devs chose to follow the faction that wanted skill points nerfed instead of adding value to the points spent. being the only 0 point profession are you really surprised that any city enhancement are planned for "some time down the road"? Same problem with elections, people wanted it changed and ill agree totally it did need changing. Problem being once the devs nerfed abstained votes going to the incumbent they also nerfed the xp gain from them. is anyone trying to master politician now really enjoying having to get everyone in their town to remember to vote so you can get your xp every three weeks?.
Play the game within the framework we have now and save crying nerf for the issues that are REALLY a problem. need cash see the sticky about grinding an hour top of this forum. dont like grinding kill some npc's for loot. donthave combat skillsfly a few destroy missions in jtl and sell all the parts to the chassis dealer, thats a few hundred k there counting the credits and attack wave bonuses. no jtl,stick a parking garage close by the mission terminals, add 1-2 more near the merchant area, catina/med centers, or routes you know people will travel alot ie to the nearest shuttle/spaceport. be surprised how fast 3-4k a repaiar adds up over 7 days.
maybe i sound a bit harsh but it irks me when people want things always handed to them instead of taking the time to EARN it for themselves
well, I for one am glad that you Aren't...with an attitude like that...No one would have anything if you were in charge.
Now, just because your city is doing good, congrats, some cities Aren't because of the location and or the server. You are on a prime planet for your city because so many people go there for the FS guys and what not...there are some others that chose quiet and remote spots...doesn't give you the right to come on here and post your 'Art thou so holy attitude and make others feel even worse about themselves, their abilities and their towns/cities. If people want to Post their concerns and what not, they have the right to...they aren't Crying or whining as you seem to think, they are upset at the fact that the costs ARE in fact too high. as for them wanting something handed to them, that's NOT what they are asking...they are saying Lower the costs. All of us ARE EARNING it because you CAN'T Grind this profession. Step down off your high pedistal there that you placed yourself on and make a suggestion...NOT bash people and call them names and make fun.
Maybe I sound a bit Harsh, but it really irks me when people come onto threads and totally flame others for their concerns and rub into others faces the fact that they are doing better than someone else.
funny city costs havent gone up a credit since we had cities as far as i know, AND if you havent noticed now you get the full 10k mission payouts compared to when groups took that nerf to payout/total group members 33k=1.6k back then.
as you CLEARLY state above people CHOSE to have a city and were to place them. theRIGHT to have a city also comes with the RESPONSIBILITY to pay for it. the devs havent done anything to make costs rise since we first had these and these costs are also well know for decorations trainers specialties ect. you wish to talk about earning it since we cant grind it, well earning it also comes with paying for it. if cities becoame so cheap that anyone could afford them how long do you think it would be before you couldnt go 1k meters without seeing another city hall on every planet.
instead of lowering costs the devs should FIRST fix all teh bugs with what we already have to generate revenue, THEN add more functionality for towns to use to generate revenues, like id saloons, gaming casinos, maybe landing fees for a town starport ect, maybe evensome perk for level 5 cities maybe that makes em worth being besides the other 50 meters of city radius. id rather have the devs spend a few weeks adding more to us than have em spend 5 minutes cutting expenses then telling us we got our cost revamp cya next year when we get back to cities again......
TxRoadDawg wrote:
RynnnDraggon wrote:
TxRoadDawg wrote:
Traie wrote:
Alright everyone. Guess we're all wrong because there's A city that can make good use of it's income. I guess we should all pull up stakes and move to Dantooine.
TxRoadDawg wrote:
FEH, ive ran Sweet Water, Dantooine on Bria and that town has made 1mil + a week 300+k a week profit regardless of what the devs have done. no sales tax property tax income taxes whatsoever. planted a few parking garages and a shuttleport and thats all. dont come in crying to nerf anything just becuase you made poor planning decisions or cant get a group up just to run a few combat missions to pay your expenses
gee am i the ONLY one outta 20+ servers to get their town self sufficient ROFL, almost makes me feel godly thinking about that. my points simple, you KNOW a town cost money to run when you start one, if you dont plan out how to pay for it its YOUR fault. ive spent enough time strolling these forums to know by now begging for a nerf only leads to trouble. when was the last time cites got ANYTHING new? parking garage maybe? instead of asking for new ways to EARN income for a city like having billboards to rent out for advertising pr some type of casino/hotel for gaming profits someone just wants the devs to give us something for nothing again.
last 2 major issues this proffesion had i recall involved skill points versus benefits to be a master politician and electing mayors. the devs chose to follow the faction that wanted skill points nerfed instead of adding value to the points spent. being the only 0 point profession are you really surprised that any city enhancement are planned for "some time down the road"? Same problem with elections, people wanted it changed and ill agree totally it did need changing. Problem being once the devs nerfed abstained votes going to the incumbent they also nerfed the xp gain from them. is anyone trying to master politician now really enjoying having to get everyone in their town to remember to vote so you can get your xp every three weeks?.
Play the game within the framework we have now and save crying nerf for the issues that are REALLY a problem. need cash see the sticky about grinding an hour top of this forum. dont like grinding kill some npc's for loot. donthave combat skillsfly a few destroy missions in jtl and sell all the parts to the chassis dealer, thats a few hundred k there counting the credits and attack wave bonuses. no jtl,stick a parking garage close by the mission terminals, add 1-2 more near the merchant area, catina/med centers, or routes you know people will travel alot ie to the nearest shuttle/spaceport. be surprised how fast 3-4k a repaiar adds up over 7 days.
maybe i sound a bit harsh but it irks me when people want things always handed to them instead of taking the time to EARN it for themselves
well, I for one am glad that you Aren't...with an attitude like that...No one would have anything if you were in charge.
Now, just because your city is doing good, congrats, some cities Aren't because of the location and or the server. You are on a prime planet for your city because so many people go there for the FS guys and what not...there are some others that chose quiet and remote spots...doesn't give you the right to come on here and post your 'Art thou so holy attitude and make others feel even worse about themselves, their abilities and their towns/cities. If people want to Post their concerns and what not, they have the right to...they aren't Crying or whining as you seem to think, they are upset at the fact that the costs ARE in fact too high. as for them wanting something handed to them, that's NOT what they are asking...they are saying Lower the costs. All of us ARE EARNING it because you CAN'T Grind this profession. Step down off your high pedistal there that you placed yourself on and make a suggestion...NOT bash people and call them names and make fun.
Maybe I sound a bit Harsh, but it really irks me when people come onto threads and totally flame others for their concerns and rub into others faces the fact that they are doing better than someone else.
funny city costs havent gone up a credit since we had cities as far as i know, AND if you havent noticed now you get the full 10k mission payouts compared to when groups took that nerf to payout/total group members 33k=1.6k back then.
as you CLEARLY state above people CHOSE to have a city and were to place them. theRIGHT to have a city also comes with the RESPONSIBILITY to pay for it. the devs havent done anything to make costs rise since we first had these and these costs are also well know for decorations trainers specialties ect. you wish to talk about earning it since we cant grind it, well earning it also comes with paying for it. if cities becoame so cheap that anyone could afford them how long do you think it would be before you couldnt go 1k meters without seeing another city hall on every planet.
instead of lowering costs the devs should FIRST fix all teh bugs with what we already have to generate revenue, THEN add more functionality for towns to use to generate revenues, like id saloons, gaming casinos, maybe landing fees for a town starport ect, maybe evensome perk for level 5 cities maybe that makes em worth being besides the other 50 meters of city radius. id rather have the devs spend a few weeks adding more to us than have em spend 5 minutes cutting expenses then telling us we got our cost revamp cya next year when we get back to cities again......
And thus still gives you the right to come in and bash people and make them feel bad...Like I said before...Step off your soap box and come down off your home made pedistal. You were rude and there is no reason for it. You aren't any better than any one else on this game.
When you last posted before you were rubbing it into others faces. Some servers are not as wealthy as yours might be, Or there is a cap on the other planets for the players when they want to place their cities...The xp Is to slow, not enough and the costs are to high, I'm sure you have forgotten what it was like to start your own city, or maybe you just moved on into one that was already up and running and you just happen to take over. Either way, people aren't asking for things to be handed to them, we All have to EARN the xp and everything else, and it may be harder for others, unlike your city that supposedily makes well over 1.3+ million a week??? IF it's true, than that's really great for you, but most others don't so that...consider all the options before you decide to slam your wealth into someone that isn't in the same postition as you. That's all Im clearly stating.
Message Edited by webboy on 06-18-2005 11:20 PM
Message Edited by webboy on 06-18-2005 11:21 PM
Jutewr wrote:
I agree with you, Khristen. I think cities are expensive, but then they're supposed to be. One person should not be paying for the entire thing. Taxes desperately need to be fixed, though. I think we'd have a lot lass people complaining if they worked properly.
/agreed. Cities should be expensive. You are running a CITY. lol Takes a lot of capital. Mine took 508k a week to run before we got bumped up to Metropolis, so I'm guessing around 600k a week once said and done. /shrug I'll sell some things in a vendor or run a bunch of missions.
City is funded by me and a few donations here and there, no taxes. So it can be done. 
actually, I would not have a single issue if Sales taxes worked, my city generates10 million easy a day, with up to 40 million on good days.
Khristen wrote:
I mentioned the idea of having terminals and trainers give a kick back to the city at one of the Fan Fest panels. They said they'd take the idea back, although it could be a long time before we see something like that.
I'll be taking a look at our Top 5 issues in the next week or so. I know that income generation is one of the big ones. Pappi and I both took the Fan Fest opportunity to bring up Sales Tax several times, as well. Having that fixed would certainly relieve some of the pressure, but it's not an easy fix.
I'd like to see us come up with some unique ideas that could be implimented via game systems to help cities support themselves and generate interest. The devs want Player Cities to be unique from NPC cities, which I think is a wonderful idea. We need to start thinking beyond the perks of NPC cities and find our purpose....but that's for another thread you should see soon.