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Thread: Need Safeguards Against Rogue Mayors

PosiTec
Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:18 am
#14


Kypec,


I dont see how you would make that work.


I could raise taxes by 150, and then 5 mins later raise them another 150... etc.


There is already a very simple mechanism for controlling Politician behaviour.... it's call and "Election".


If I (as Mayor) do something that annoys my constituents too much, they can simply vote me out and elect someone that will (they believe) do what they want.


The problem rasied is the amount of "Damage" that an incumbent Mayor can do between elections.


How do you prevent excessive damage (which incidentaly is subjective) while still enabling the Mayor to be effective?


Message Edited by PosiTec on 02-12-2004 03:19 PM

gunther22
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:45 am
#15

I agree with the fact a mayor should not be able to take downa city hall. I think it is quite simple though to fix the issue. There should be a ne voting system. Make the xp gathering on a daily basis, obviously cut it down so that 7 days of xp equals 100xp for each citizen. The upgrades can still happen weekly. The major change would be if someone registers to run against the mayor. At that moment, the Mayor cannot change city structures until the vote is over and a winner is declared. More xp should be given in the case of an election win. I think this is fair. In what happened to the city up above, the mayor would not have been able to destroy the city once someone ran against him. Nothing would have been lost and if they did not win the first time they can still hold the mayor, by running again and again until the beat him. This would only stop structures from being destroyed, not placed. Just because the someone is running against the mayor does not mean his job stops, he just can't destroy it! I think this is fair, probably won't happen, but I would stand by it!


Krusher

Mayor of Mos Furiosis, Tatooine
PosiTec
Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:56 am
#16

Gunther,


Unless I am missunderstanding you idea, I see a rather fatal flaw...


If I want to grief the city, all i have to do is register to run against the incumbant Mayor every week.


Now the mayor cannot make ANY changes to structures. The city is paralyzed.



I did like one of thesuggestions posted above. It said basically that the only Mayor action which would be changed would be the destruction of city hall. The Mayor would take the option on the terminal, and this would send a message to ALL citizens. The actual destruction would have something like a 10 day timer... during which time the City Mayor could override it (another terminal option). This would give any interested citizen the oportunity to run for election, get elected, and shut-off the destruct.


Hiwa
Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:45 pm
#17









Imperial_Destroyer wrote:

Well having read some of DB's positions on the issue that happened



They found out their mayor was conspiring against them with a Rebel. So instead of working to put another mayor in by election they kicked him from the guild without confronting him (that may have happened in guildchat, dunno about that)


The fact that he was arbitrarily kicked from their guild without what I would call some sort of due process I think lies at the heart of the matter.


So while rogue mayors are a problem, the guild could've just elected another mayor next election rather than making it the issue it obviously was. On DB's part I'd call their move premature and not well thought out.


As it is, they've created an issue (both DB and their mayor) that I've heard of before, just never in a city this size. Because it has happened before I suspect the Dev's have thought of this occurring by now and decided to not code against it for the time being.



As the guy playing devils advocate is asking, how do you code this in such a way as to not make it hard for people playing the politician class.











I tend to disagree, for an obvious reason, This Mayor had the ability to pull the city hall, destroying the city while someone else was running against him.Once he knew he was being kicked out of office he took revenge. This would have happened regardless if he was still in the guild or not.



It was a necessity to kick him out of the guild immediately, he was attempting (in his own words) to defraud another player. He was not denying this fact. I applaud my guild for taking swift action against him.



Ifhe was keptin the guild, howcould we possibly get someone else voted into office, without him knowing, or taking revenge once he realizes he was losing the race. This is what happened here. He sat in the city hall insisting that the guild pay him 50 million to not destroy the hall. Our city members were attempting to vote him out, before he lost... he destroyed the city hall.



The problem here is not that the politician should not be alowed to move around structures,They should not be alloud to destroy a citythat 90 people live in, without a majority vote that it should be destroyed.


Lei





Leihiwa
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Pronounced: LAY-HE-VUH
Jade' Moon - Teiya Law
gunther22
Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:46 pm
#18

no you did not read it right. The mayor can still place items, but he cannot raise taxes and destroy things. The onyl thing that locks are taxes and destroy options.
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