Politician Archive

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MTolwyn wrote:

Such kind of griefing, yes i call it grieving to abuse /cityban to stop a BH from doing his missing and getting his reward, caused alredy the loss of /citywarn. If this happens too often it s just a matter of time till we also lose the /cityban command.

And if i d be the BH i would report you for griefing in this case.

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Pardon me, but the guy was trying to get into other peoples houses, as well as ignorning me.

I was not only Protecting one of my Citizens, but it is my right as an mayor, and the person who Started the City and Guild to ban whom I like if I find their actions unreasonable, as his were.

I asked him Three times if I could help him and was ignored. He was also stopping at all the houses trying to get in, and than with the little nasty death threats, I made sure he would not be allowed to use my city for anything.

It is attitudes like yours that ruin the game for others. Since I am not only the Mayor of a City that I built ground up, and we aren't really included in the GCW, than I was making sure that my Role in this game is played out to the extint. I had reported Him for trying to Camp out my city, and was told I did nothing wrong.

If the Bounty Hunter was honest, and told me that he was looking for the Jedi, I would have told him to take it Out of my City.

I do Not tolerate Death Threats, either in game or RL, and this young kid was directing them to me as a RL threat.

I will ban Anyone that Harasses my Citizens and myself, Plan and simple, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

Message Edited by RynnnDraggon on 06-21-2005 12:27 AM

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MTolwyn wrote:

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Pardon me, but the guy was trying to get into other peoples houses, as well as ignorning me.

I was not only Protecting one of my Citizens, but it is my right as an mayor, and the person who Started the City and Guild to ban whom I like if I find their actions unreasonable, as his were.

I asked him Three times if I could help him and was ignored. He was also stopping at all the houses trying to get in, and than with the little nasty death threats, I made sure he would not be allowed to use my city for anything.

It is attitudes like yours that ruin the game for others. Since I am not only the Mayor of a City that I built ground up, and we aren't really included in the GCW, than I was making sure that my Role in this game is played out to the extint. I had reported Him for trying to Camp out my city, and was told I did nothing wrong.

If the Bounty Hunter was honest, and told me that he was looking for the Jedi, I would have told him to take it Out of my City.

I do Not tolerate Death Threats, either in game or RL, and this young kid was directing them to me as a RL threat.

I will ban Anyone that Harasses my Citizens and myself, Plan and simple, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

Message Edited by RynnnDraggon on 06-21-2005 12:27 AM

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BH are supposed to kill Jedi, andi see no reason why a BH should ask for permission to complete it s mission.

And as you said earlier you were protecting your husband by using /cityban.

And as you also said he didn t say anything before the /cityban, so the reason for banning him was cause he was after your husband.

If someone is harrasing people he should be banned.

If someone is causing troubles he should be banned.

But banning a BH for doing his job is no excuse, it s pure griefing and abuse of power.

I m mayor since day one and so far in total me and my militia had to ban 3 people from my city for causing massive damage to the comunity.

We don t ban oposing faction attacking our bases as they do their job.

We don t ban BH s hunting our Jedi cause they just do their job.

We ban people who cause damage to the comunity

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It is the mayor and the citizens right to choose to run their cities how they see fit. Afterall we're the ones payin the bills around here I ban BH's on sight if they are waiting for any of my city jedis. I don't allow loitering outside of their houses or other city buildings as that is considered a form of griefing. I agree with what Ryyyn did and I applaud her on standing her ground and running her city as she sees fit. I've been running a very successful imperial city on Gorath, Dantooine for well over a year now - I don't care if you've been around since day one or not - everyone has their own play styles.

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MTolwyn wrote:

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Pardon me, but the guy was trying to get into other peoples houses, as well as ignorning me.

I was not only Protecting one of my Citizens, but it is my right as an mayor, and the person who Started the City and Guild to ban whom I like if I find their actions unreasonable, as his were.

I asked him Three times if I could help him and was ignored. He was also stopping at all the houses trying to get in, and than with the little nasty death threats, I made sure he would not be allowed to use my city for anything.

It is attitudes like yours that ruin the game for others. Since I am not only the Mayor of a City that I built ground up, and we aren't really included in the GCW, than I was making sure that my Role in this game is played out to the extint. I had reported Him for trying to Camp out my city, and was told I did nothing wrong.

If the Bounty Hunter was honest, and told me that he was looking for the Jedi, I would have told him to take it Out of my City.

I do Not tolerate Death Threats, either in game or RL, and this young kid was directing them to me as a RL threat.

I will ban Anyone that Harasses my Citizens and myself, Plan and simple, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

Message Edited by RynnnDraggon on 06-21-200512:27 AM

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BH are supposed to kill Jedi, andi see no reason why a BH should ask for permission to complete it s mission.

And as you said earlier you were protecting your husband by using /cityban.

And as you also said he didn t say anything before the /cityban, so the reason for banning him was cause he was after your husband.

If someone is harrasing people he should be banned.

If someone is causing troubles he should be banned.

But banning a BH for doing his job is no excuse, it s pure griefing and abuse of power.

I m mayor since day one and so far in total me and my militia had to ban 3 people from my city for causing massive damage to the comunity.

We don t ban oposing faction attacking our bases as they do their job.

We don t ban BH s hunting our Jedi cause they just do their job.

We ban people who cause damage to the comunity

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Grambacca wrote:

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MTolwyn wrote:

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Pardon me, but the guy was trying to get into other peoples houses, as well as ignorning me.

I was not only Protecting one of my Citizens, but it is my right as an mayor, and the person who Started the City and Guild to ban whom I like if I find their actions unreasonable, as his were.

I asked him Three times if I could help him and was ignored. He was also stopping at all the houses trying to get in, and than with the little nasty death threats, I made sure he would not be allowed to use my city for anything.

It is attitudes like yours that ruin the game for others. Since I am not only the Mayor of a City that I built ground up, and we aren't really included in the GCW, than I was making sure that my Role in this game is played out to the extint. I had reported Him for trying to Camp out my city, and was told I did nothing wrong.

If the Bounty Hunter was honest, and told me that he was looking for the Jedi, I would have told him to take it Out of my City.

I do Not tolerate Death Threats, either in game or RL, and this young kid was directing them to me as a RL threat.

I will ban Anyone that Harasses my Citizens and myself, Plan and simple, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

Message Edited by RynnnDraggon on 06-21-200512:27 AM

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BH are supposed to kill Jedi, andi see no reason why a BH should ask for permission to complete it s mission.

And as you said earlier you were protecting your husband by using /cityban.

And as you also said he didn t say anything before the /cityban, so the reason for banning him was cause he was after your husband.

If someone is harrasing people he should be banned.

If someone is causing troubles he should be banned.

But banning a BH for doing his job is no excuse, it s pure griefing and abuse of power.

I m mayor since day one and so far in total me and my militia had to ban 3 people from my city for causing massive damage to the comunity.

We don t ban oposing faction attacking our bases as they do their job.

We don t ban BH s hunting our Jedi cause they just do their job.

We ban people who cause damage to the comunity

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As militia and Guild Leader in my City of Rebels we not only ban BH's ob sight but also any Imperials are banned on sight. No questions asked. This is our right to do so. We do not want those people around in our city. Imperials for obvious reasons (opposing faction and the GCW) and BH because our citizens have a right to feel protected in their own town!

It is without a doubt the asinine BH's with attitudes like yours that will cause the community to rise up in anger and see to it that BH is hit hard with the nerf bat. I would not mind one bit ifsome of the following things was put into the game:

1) Allow Jedi to take missions on BH's. OoO! I like that one!

2) Remove BH missions and any other missions that are taken against other players. Could make things a bit boring - overall BH's do need a nerfing I don't see why on earth it's fair for them to take up to 5 in their group against 1 jedi but jedi no longer have the help of their mates.

3) Bring back /citywarn so that Militia can join in to protect their citizens. Unfortunately never going to happen because of children thinking it's fun to kill the CSR's

4) Limit the number of missions athat can be taken against a Jedi to ONE per week or even ONE per MONTH. And by this I mean only one BH could have that Jedi's mission. I think this is the best idea i've heard of - limiting how many times someone can be hunted - seems to be the fair resolution right now especially with how visibility is going these days - poor n00b jedis

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MTolwyn wrote:

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Pardon me, but the guy was trying to get into other peoples houses, as well as ignorning me.

I was not only Protecting one of my Citizens, but it is my right as an mayor, and the person who Started the City and Guild to ban whom I like if I find their actions unreasonable, as his were.

I asked him Three times if I could help him and was ignored. He was also stopping at all the houses trying to get in, and than with the little nasty death threats, I made sure he would not be allowed to use my city for anything.

It is attitudes like yours that ruin the game for others. Since I am not only the Mayor of a City that I built ground up, and we aren't really included in the GCW, than I was making sure that my Role in this game is played out to the extint. I had reported Him for trying to Camp out my city, and was told I did nothing wrong.

If the Bounty Hunter was honest, and told me that he was looking for the Jedi, I would have told him to take it Out of my City.

I do Not tolerate Death Threats, either in game or RL, and this young kid was directing them to me as a RL threat.

I will ban Anyone that Harasses my Citizens and myself, Plan and simple, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

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BH are supposed to kill Jedi, andi see no reason why a BH should ask for permission to complete it s mission.

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Because it is her town and any people within their borders are meant to follow the rules of said town or damn the consequences. You may feel fine with weapons brandished within your streets, murder and mayhem running rampant, terrorists/stooges walking around brazenly showing their factional affiliation but you are not every player. My old city banned imperials attacking our bases in order to prevent clone camping as well as the fact that they're imperials and we're rebels. The 2 don't mix well beyond friendly rivalries. Was this wrong to do? To protect my city's atmosphere and citizens?

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And as you said earlier you were protecting your husband by using /cityban.

And as you also said he didn t say anything before the /cityban, so the reason for banning him was cause he was after your husband.

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Because he was attempting to murder her citizen who just so happened to be married to her.

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If someone is harrasing people he should be banned.

If someone is causing troubles he should be banned.

But banning a BH for doing his job is no excuse, it s pure griefing and abuse of power.

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A merchant's job is to advertise his wares and sell product. Does this mean banning them for spamming their shop's locale at your shuttleport is griefing and abusing your power? Or attempting to get rid of an unwanted and unwelcome traveller? Is it abusing my power to do what I can to make my city safe andfree for my allies?

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I m mayor since day one and so far in total me and my militia had to ban 3 people from my city for causing massive damage to the comunity.

We don t ban oposing faction attacking our bases as they do their job.

We don t ban BH s hunting our Jedi cause they just do their job.

We ban people who cause damage to the comunity

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That'snice. I've been a novice politician since day 1 and had my own Corellian city sincethe limits where uppedto present. I've banned dozens of people for various reasons. I banned opposing faction fighters attacking our bases because it was my sworn duty to protect them. I banned BH's hunting jedi friends because it is my job to ensure the safety of my citizens. I banned people who cause damage to the serene aura of my town and attempt to inflict grief upon my citizenry.

Message Edited by PsychoticChipmunk on 06-22-2005 12:07 PM

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RynnnDraggon wrote:

Thank you devs for keeping the /CityBan

And thanks to my maker for fast fingers

I just started a new city on the 9th of this month, I have been working like crazy to decourate the entire city wtih what I can.

Yesterday, something happed that I was not expecting...

My Husband, who has a Jedi, was sitting inside the city hall, while I was out checking on the maintance of the Merchant Tents and decourating one of them

as well as our guild hall and City hall...When Low and behold, he comes someone on a swoop, right through out town. I thought nothing really big, untill I saw the name...

GK-IV, hmmm I thought, and went back to what I was doing but kept an eye on him...he gets off his swoop and walks right into the tent without so much as a word, I asked him if I could help him, he just ignored me...I figured he's just some rude kid. He leaves and drives around trying to get into my citizens houses, so I walked out of the tent and asked him one more time if I could help him, once again, silence. He drives over to the city hall, and my gut sank...he's going after my husbands Jedi, he get's off his swoop, and goes right into my city hall, Talk about quick fingers, lol my fingers typed /cityban before I even reaslised what I did. lol He didn't get one shot off. He was Zooomed right out of the Hall

My husband was safe, so I get these nasty little tells, after I send him one asking him for the third time if I could help him. He demands to know why he is city banned, I told him to answer my question, and he continues to get snotty and than orders me to pay him the bounty on my husband or we both die...I send him a tell to get a life and laugh at him, knowning now he's some young punk kid trying to act all grown up behind a monitor. He than leaves but comes back and sits down on our city hall steps, Hewas going to camp there and log off. I asked to leave or be reported for camping our town. He finally left.

I would like to see the devs bring back the /Citywarn and if possible a /citysheild lol something that when you ban them from your city, they bounce off these invisable walls...would be funny to see, however I realize that won't happen. I Would however like to see restrictions placed on the city halls, Give us the right to ban certain people from entering. Just wanted to share this with Politician's because the /cityban is a great thing and it DOES help to keep your citizens safe,

And before I am had a go at, I would have done thatfor any of the other jedi that reside in my City.

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I'll put my 2 creds in on this one. Being a PA leader a Mayor and a MBH.

/citywarn can be used in many bad ways and unfortunately was thats why they removed it. (csr got killed by it if i remember correctly).
HOWEVER i would like to see a timed version of it instated, say a 12hr version. and the person must be city banned prior to the city warn say 20min. if after 20min of sitting around you get to /citywarn the person now has 5 min to leave town. and 12hrs to stay out of town, or be gunned down by city militia. (of course csr's are exempt)

AS a mayor that sounds resonable. and in protection of my citizens fully acceptable.

As a PA leader it would also fix some local problems we have encountered, no need to bring that upo.

As a MBH, yea it wopuld be a nusiance to me, but it would make thing ohh so much more exciting. and i'm not going to camp out for a jedi, there are way to many to pick and choice from. All you relly have to do is hang around kash, see who comes in pop out to x grab the mission. pop back to kash, and just look for them, not hard to do at all. most of them go to 1 of 2 spots all you have to do is look in each instance. there are short cuts to that which i won't go into. i'll say 10 instances can be checked in no more than 5 min depending on load in and out.

But if a BH has to camp for 1 jedi when there are SOOO Many,he needs a life or he's a respec /spit.
I do know some respec BH's and they are good but IMO their the exception not the norm. /city warnthe campers, then kill em.

And you will always be welcome to visit Imp Headquarters on Naboo, Valcyn as mine

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RynnnDraggon wrote:

If you, being a mayor, do not Protect your Jedi, that are supposed to feel safe in your city, and expect the mayor to Protect them, yet you say you don't ban BH's that are hunting your Jedi, That shows me one of of three things.

1). You are Afraid of the BH's. (or maybe you are getting part of the payout)...I have seen it before.

2). You could careless about your Citizens.

3). You're a really bad mayor...

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being hunted from BH is the risk of each Jedi, and unless it s a knight its the own fault of each jedi to end up on the terminals.

Oh and yes i ve a Jedi near to Knight and i think Jedi are killing the GCW as most others think. Do i flee and hide from BHs? No. and anyway i m not on any terms and won t be on any so fast as i avoid anything giving visibility.

but in general you miss my point on this situation

if punks cause troubles to citizens, we take care of those

but we don t interfere in basic game machanics as
Jedi vs. BH
and the GCW, because placing a base inside the city means that the city is out for war, so the citizens have to face the situation. And ours do, as it was a democratic vote for entering the war or not. Any player taking up any factions SF status must expect to be killed and cannot hope that someone is arround banning the attackers from the public buildings.

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MTolwyn wrote:

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Pardon me, but the guy was trying to get into other peoples houses, as well as ignorning me.

I was not only Protecting one of my Citizens, but it is my right as an mayor, and the person who Started the City and Guild to ban whom I like if I find their actions unreasonable, as his were.

I asked him Three times if I could help him and was ignored. He was also stopping at all the houses trying to get in, and than with the little nasty death threats, I made sure he would not be allowed to use my city for anything.

It is attitudes like yours that ruin the game for others. Since I am not only the Mayor of a City that I built ground up, and we aren't really included in the GCW, than I was making sure that my Role in this game is played out to the extint. I had reported Him for trying to Camp out my city, and was told I did nothing wrong.

If the Bounty Hunter was honest, and told me that he was looking for the Jedi, I would have told him to take it Out of my City.

I do Not tolerate Death Threats, either in game or RL, and this young kid was directing them to me as a RL threat.

I will ban Anyone that Harasses my Citizens and myself, Plan and simple, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

Message Edited by RynnnDraggon on 06-21-2005 12:27 AM

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BH are supposed to kill Jedi, andi see no reason why a BH should ask for permission to complete it s mission.

And as you said earlier you were protecting your husband by using /cityban.

And as you also said he didn t say anything before the /cityban, so the reason for banning him was cause he was after your husband.

If someone is harrasing people he should be banned.

If someone is causing troubles he should be banned.

But banning a BH for doing his job is no excuse, it s pure griefing and abuse of power.

I m mayor since day one and so far in total me and my militia had to ban 3 people from my city for causing massive damage to the comunity.

We don t ban oposing faction attacking our bases as they do their job.

We don t ban BH s hunting our Jedi cause they just do their job.

We ban people who cause damage to the comunity

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Rynnn, don't get so bent out of shape. The individual has demonstrated to not really be worth it. You've done well, your piers agree, and this one person shouldn't ruin that for you.

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MTolwyn wrote:

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RynnnDraggon wrote:

If you, being a mayor, do not Protect your Jedi, that are supposed to feel safe in your city, and expect the mayor to Protect them, yet you say you don't ban BH's that are hunting your Jedi, That shows me one of of three things.

1). You are Afraid of the BH's. (or maybe you are getting part of the payout)...I have seen it before.

2). You could careless about your Citizens.

3). You're a really bad mayor...

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being hunted from BH is the risk of each Jedi, and unless it s a knight its the own fault of each jedi to end up on the terminals. I beg to differ - with the CU it forced EVERYONE to be grouped. Jedis have to get the xp somehow and being grouped is the only way to do this hence the reason you see so many low lvl jedis on the boards now. So - as a BH you should be well aware of that issue. This was SOE's fault for pushing a lvl based system into a skill based game. Don't blame it on all those jedi - sure some do get on the boards overall on purpose - but most of them are damn close to finished template jedi if not finished template.

Oh and yes i ve a Jedi near to Knight and i think Jedi are killing the GCW as most others think. Do i flee and hide from BHs? No. and anyway i m not on any terms and won t be on any so fast as i avoid anything giving visibility. Well, aren't you just gods gift to SOE - maybe you should write a player guide at how to successfully grind jedi while getting a decent amount of xp and staying off the terms post-cu. Pre-CU this was easy to do, post-cu well it can be done but lets face it - SOE shoved grouping down everyones throats.

but in general you miss my point on this situation I again beg to differ - you are not seeing the point that everyone runs their cities in their own unique ways. We're not saying the way one chooses to run their city is the right or wrong way - everyone has different styles.

if punks cause troubles to citizens, we take care of those

but we don t interfere in basic game machanics as
Jedi vs. BH
and the GCW, because placing a base inside the city means that the city is out for war, so the citizens have to face the situation. And ours do, as it was a democratic vote for entering the war or not. Any player taking up any factions SF status must expect to be killed and cannot hope that someone is arround banning the attackers from the public buildings. Since when did this ever become a GCW issue? BH and Jedi are two seperate things from the GCW. Yes, they all impact it in some form but this is not about the GCW or how one chooses to play THEIR GAME. I'll be damned if someone will ever try to impose on my gaming time or threaten my citizens in any type of way. Rebels get banned if their overt in my city - BH's get banned if their on a mission in my city - simple as that. Don't like it - well I don't honestly care. My citizens are the ones paying the bills - not the outsiders that choose to come in. Once again - it is everyones fair right to run their cities as they see fit. What works for one group of players may not work for another group - that is why there are choices in this game.

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MTolwyn wrote:

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RynnnDraggon wrote:

If you, being a mayor, do not Protect your Jedi, that are supposed to feel safe in your city, and expect the mayor to Protect them, yet you say you don't ban BH's that are hunting your Jedi, That shows me one of of three things.

1). You are Afraid of the BH's. (or maybe you are getting part of the payout)...I have seen it before.

2). You could careless about your Citizens.

3). You're a really bad mayor...

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being hunted from BH is the risk of each Jedi, and unless it s a knight its the own fault of each jedi to end up on the terminals.

Oh and yes i ve a Jedi near to Knight and i think Jedi are killing the GCW as most others think. Do i flee and hide from BHs? No. and anyway i m not on any terms and won t be on any so fast as i avoid anything giving visibility.

but in general you miss my point on this situation

if punks cause troubles to citizens, we take care of those

but we don t interfere in basic game machanics as
Jedi vs. BH
and the GCW, because placing a base inside the city means that the city is out for war, so the citizens have to face the situation. And ours do, as it was a democratic vote for entering the war or not. Any player taking up any factions SF status must expect to be killed and cannot hope that someone is arround banning the attackers from the public buildings.

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