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and one other thing, ive watched my city's treasury very carefully the last 3 weeks since i found out that sales taxes werent working and removed them. as far as i can tell the property tax isnt working either, not sure if its just mine or everyone's but what we should be taking in from just the citizens list not counting the duplicate and triplicate housing we arent getting.

Anyone catch my suggestion above? I think it would work better than a purge and would still allow departed players to come back to the game.

Message Edited by KJFett on 03-25-2005 11:47 AM

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KJFett wrote:

Yeah, and the issue of what to do with old houses and inventory has been addressed in many threads. Psy even addresses it in thier post as something the devs are working on. I think most of us are more dealing with making mayors aware that the original post isnt a good idea, and doesnt accomplish what they claim it will.

You might want to find those threads, and post there as they will be more seen that way.

Message Edited by KJFett on 03-25-2005 11:47 AM

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Thanks, good point, I'll do that.

It would be so much simpler if the folks who were going away for a long time or never coming back would just simply mothball all their stuff and move outside city limits. Or /tranfer the structure to someone else. The ultimate responsibility for this problem lies with the players.

I have no problem w/ part time players,the kind who dont play often but do play. Its the folks who turned off the account, never to return that cause the biggest headaches, and its even worse if the toon itself got deleted because then there is no way to get rid of the house w/o SOE intervention.

If anything this new 'condemed' thing SOE stuck us with makes it more critical to take great care when granting zoning rights, and exercise control over where people build in city limits, lest you be stuck with a peice of crap on your towns' prime real estate. (I really get irate over people who stick up 'leaving the game' messages or anti-SOE messages when they abandon their house, that is greifing right there, talk about a big negative having crud like that in the middle of your town, forever.)

personally, I would rather have a more restrictive Militia, one who does the house placement for the person wanting to build, then /transfers the structure once its dropped, rather than gamble on getting stuck with a harvester farm getting dropped for eternity right in front of city hall)

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Kinshi wrote:
It would be so much simpler if the folks who were going away for a long time or never coming back would just simply mothball all their stuff and move outside city limits. Or /tranfer the structure to someone else. The ultimate responsibility for this problem lies with the players.

The responsibility does sit with the players correct, but we are left to deal with the problem. This is why we are hoping the devs deal with it in a fashion that doesnt greif anyone.

I have no problem w/ part time players,the kind who dont play often but do play. Its the folks who turned off the account, never to return that cause the biggest headaches, and its even worse if the toon itself got deleted because then there is no way to get rid of the house w/o SOE intervention.

If the toon gets deleted the house disappears. I'm not sure where you heard otherwise, but deleting the actual character is supposed to result in the house, bank and all theyown disappearing. In fact, we would prefer the person that is leaving never to return to actuallt delete their toon. If the account is banned....then no, it will remain for a very long time.

If anything this new 'condemed' thing SOE stuck us with makes it more critical to take great care when granting zoning rights, and exercise control over where people build in city limits, lest you be stuck with a peice of crap on your towns' prime real estate. (I really get irate over people who stick up 'leaving the game' messages or anti-SOE messages when they abandon their house, that is greifing right there, talk about a big negative having crud like that in the middle of your town, forever.)

You may be able to get a CSR to change the signs on those houses. Also, yes it does force us to be more aware of placement in the city. That isnt a bad things tho as it is after all, out job anyways. Shoot, I have 6 guys on militia, 3 of them are my accounts. The other 3 know full well where they can add homes, and where it is not allowed. Are there houses that I would like moved? Yes. Sadly, there is nothing that can be done tho, and I must simply accept that and work around it. For the time being, it is best that every mayor come to terms with it. Continue pushing the devs for change thought.

personally, I would rather have a more restrictive Militia, one who does the house placement for the person wanting to build, then /transfers the structure once its dropped, rather than gamble on getting stuck with a harvester farm getting dropped for eternity right in front of city hall)

Im not following you here. We do have a militia that while not being able to drop themselves*, IS able to show the player where to drop and in what fashion, /grant, then when the house is placed, /grant again to revoke placing rights. I have never felt at risk of having a harvy farm in front of the city hall. Also, on a side note. most placements of homes is done by me the mayor, and I do drop and transfer. The militia is more a hand for me should I be away or not online.

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* I would not want the militia able to drop on their own. That could cause many potential problems. As it is now, only the mayor can place without approval. The militia must get the approval from the mayor, or another member before dropping, and that is a good thing for security in the city.

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GunWeiKee wrote:

I totally agree with Kinshi on this one. If a player leaves the game, by leaving I mean letting the account close or cancel, then they should not even expect their char to exist if they decide to re-activate it. It is only by SOE's good graces, to those that leave, that they are not purging accounts, toons, or anything else. I left the game for several months myself to go play EQ2 and let a friend use my account until the subscription cancelled. Well, I decided to come back and when I logged in I did not expect anything to be where I left it because I left the game.

It would be wise to edit that paragraph....lending a toon to a friend is a offense that the CSRs can use to shut down an account for good. Also, when you cancel an account, you are told in the process by SOE that your toon will remain avaiable at least 6 months. It doesnt matterhow any of us feel about it. SOE has taken that stand.

Also, if the player is not returning the maintenance is going to come out of their account anyway. Kinshi's idea only makes it happen faster for the same player that is not coming back. Nothing gets missed, nothing is stolen and it is completely fair within the the context of the game. The mayor has sole discretion as to what the taxes are; there is no democracy in SWG, it is a representative republic just like the good old US of A. If the citizenry does not like the taxes being levied they can do one of three things; nothing, leave, or elect a new mayor that will not set such high taxes.

We dont know if these people are gone for good or returning in 2 months like you did. Just because YOU didnt expect anything left doesnt mean that the 100s of others that read the print on the screen that said the toons will remain avaiable for 6 months feel the way you did. Justify all you like. You are taking credits from someones account that they didnt authorize you to access by using a game mechanic to your advantage.

Kinshi's idea in fact informs and gets consensus from the citizenry before doing anything. I like the idea and will look at doing it for the city I took on a mayor account of. My city has been neglected and is in dire trouble, I hope to be able to rebuild it and this maybe one step I may have to take to accomplish that feat.

Did you not read any of the posts here? At best, if you do you the idea, you create a pain in the rear for your citizens and yourself as well asyou try and compensate out of your pocket because you cant pull enough out of the treasury. At the least, you greif everyone and make their play time a mess and take money that isnt yours to padded your treasury.

Anyways..since you have gone in to so many posts and said how you took over an acocunt, I doubt your citizens will have to worry about you doing this as you'll have a banned account before you can. Shoot..if even one of them doesnt like the idea and reports the account......

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