Player Associations Archive
Thread: Too Cruel?
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Gorai
Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:17 pm
#1
I just had a members purge, where I removed 40 members in my guild leaving only 60 members left. I email the whole guild last week, to reply or to be removed.60 of them replied or I know they are inactive for due to Real life issues.
now, in the 40 members i removed, some of them i see online but they didn't reply to my email! am i been too cruel to remove them? I'm not sure, all i really want is to keep a active guild, have my members know each other and to create a circle of friends. But if they didn't reply, it can means they aren't active enough or dedicated enough to read email?
I just don't know what to do...
TrevorVanth
Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:18 pm
#2
No, it wasn't too cruel.
In the events leading up to the formation of GTN earlier this month, we sent out a similar guild mail for our old guild. A mandatory guild meeting was scheduled for three weeks later (our intention was two, but that would have put it Thanksgiving weekend), and anyone not in attendance or not communicating in advance that they couldn't attend would be dropped from the guild.
Unfortunately, as we discovered, since our leader was MIA himself, and had only delegated rights to sponsor & accept members, not kick them, we couldn't follow through.
So...don't feel bad. You let them know that, if they didn't respond, they'd be dropped. They didn't respond. And, if any of them were away for RL issues, when they return, they can always contact you and fill you in, then be readmitted.
Tavtrin
Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:22 pm
#3
It is a good idea to have a member purge every couple months. If they don't respond to your emails, and don't contact you in the future than there is no reason to worry. If they do contact you you can always let them back in.
Rothin
Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:37 pm
#4
It's not too cruel, however, one week is not a lot of time. Especially during this time of year with the Holidays and so forth. Most of the ones who didn't respond could have been with their families or just generally away for the holidays.
I'd always suggest giving at least two week for people to respond and not to schedule purges and such around the holidays. Too many people take time off around them. However, depending on how active you want your guild to be that decision is completely up to you.
atytula
Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:43 pm
#5
What I do is send out the email, and kick those that don't reply within the set time (there are exceptions). I send out another email before I kick players letting them know that they are welcome in the guild, and all they need to do is ask to come back and they are re-invited. This allows me to keep the active list specific and if someone left the game for a month and comes back, they can rejoin the ranks.
atytula
Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:57 pm
#7
Gorai wrote:
one of them, complain and joined another guild...
*shrug*
Then he/she didn't deserve to be in your guild. If they are not understanding that a player purge is needed to keep the roster an active list, then too bad for her. Chances are, if she were an active participant in the guild, you would have known not to delete her, but she was a shadow and easily forgoten. The key when doing these purges is to tell everyone before hand that they are welcome to come back, and they were only kicked because you are uncertain if they are even playing the game anymore. Usually they are more understanding of this and will ask for a re-invite.
Rothin
Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:46 am
#8
I have to agree, if someone leaves a guild just because you are doing a roster clean up then they probably aren't meant to be in your guild. Those clean ups are very necessary for a leader to manage the guild properly. If someone doesn't understand that (Which honestly I have never encountered someone who hasn't) then they probably should find a better suited guild for them.
You did what you thought was right for your guild. That's the important thing.
ArgonOrakio
Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:58 pm
#9
I might have an alternative for it. Since you and your senior members are pretty active, you usually know out of your head which members are active and which are not.
This is how I performed last purge:
Iwent over each member I had doubts about on guildchat, and people replied to me if they saw the person n the last few weeks.
After I had my list I sent out a guildmail announcing the purge, and I mentioned that this was purely a purge based on thoughts and assumptions. If the members removed read the mail, they just had to re-establish contact with me or my recruiters, and get re-assigned. a few did this and I registered no hard feelings from anyone 
Purges can be great, but if you're the devil in person, you can misuse the list and make sure no-one is able to overthrow your reign. Ofcourse no-one is THAT evil right? 
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