Player Associations Archive
Thread: PA Lots I'm glad it's a priority
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Pheak13
Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:15 pm
#1
Here I am, a PA leader just now finding this forum...
I browsed through the issue list and I'm happy to see that reducing the lot requirement is high on the list. Only being able to have 1 character per server and the PA hall requiring 9 lots is about on par with saying:
PA leaders can't be Jedi (unless they are rich or bum off guildmates - the grind through crafting professions)
PA leaders can't be crafters (unless they are rich or bum off guildmates)
What I'm saying is that in order to be a crafter you would have buy your resources as having one medium miner wouldn't be enough.
So, again, I'm sorry I missed the voting and I'm glad alot of you agree that this issue is very distressing.
Jordan_Karr
Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:21 am
#3
As a PA leader myself I have a Second Account that I keeprunning on the60 Day game cards...
Yes its some times a pain, but just think of it this way if your second account is oh something like a DR or a Pure Combat Character, You dont really need those lots...
This way as a PA Leader and a Crafter, run harvesters on my lots... My current break down for PA used Lots
Main Account
2 Lots for a Small Storage shed (cant keep tons of resouces in the PA Hall, I like my hall looking good)
1 Lot for a Factory
7 Lots for Harvesters
Second Account
9 Lots for the PA Hall
1 Lot Factory
Non Crafter Guild members are also your best friends... Ask a few of your non crafters who maybe run 5 harvesters to place some of the structures you may use as a crafter for you and make you an admin... then you take care of it...
and if your a Crafter and a leader and can afford some extra Medium BER 10 Harvesters, Ask your Non Crafters you can trust to toss some of your extra harvesters down when you find a resouce you need...
Being a PA leader is a lot of micro managing... Especially on the lots used..
CrimFuzor
Sun Apr 25, 2004 8:44 pm
#4
I hope they lower the lot cost, I can live with it being 6 lots like a large house. Originally it was supposed to be like a city hall, 0 lots, perhaps they could do as such, 6 lots for the guild hall if it doesn't have a guild associated with it and 0 lots if there is actually a guild.
Chewato
Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:57 am
#5
Ilike the idea of allowing guild members to 'donate' lots towards the PA Hall. That way larger guilds would see nine players with only one lot each donated. I know you can 'effectively' do this by having guild members loan lots to the PA Hall owner, but that can be a hassle when it comes time to move the structures.
glidingpiglet
Tue May 04, 2004 10:24 am
#6
It should stay high cost.
You want everything too easy.
Try soloing EVERYTHING, ALL THE TIME.
Find out how much harder the game is alone, with a self reliant toon.
Groups gain a bunch of advantages, there needs to be costs attached.
Terrie
29 profs, no slot
independent, and proud. Never been in a guild, never will.
Pheak13
Wed May 05, 2004 1:12 pm
#7
Easy to say comming from someone who is "independent, and proud. Never been in a guild, never will."
The point is, is that I want to have the same opportunities as you, however if I decide I want to be a master doctor I have to buy my resources or get someone else to mine them for me. Now, sure, restrict ME but this restricts other people as well, and how is that fair?
RougeSoldier
Thu May 06, 2004 4:04 am
#8
Ash057 wrote:
PA hall should work like a City hall
GOT THAT RIGHT!!!!! why should we totaly give up on other activities in the galaxy just to unite a certain group of people.
RougeSoldier
Thu May 06, 2004 4:05 am
#9
Chewato wrote:
Ilike the idea of allowing guild members to 'donate' lots towards the PA Hall. That way larger guilds would see nine players with only one lot each donated. I know you can 'effectively' do this by having guild members loan lots to the PA Hall owner, but that can be a hassle when it comes time to move the structures.
another good idea too.
Alter_Ego
Thu May 06, 2004 2:51 pm
#10
CrimFuzor wrote:
perhaps they could do as such, 6 lots for the guild hall if it doesn't have a guild associated with it and 0 lots if there is actually a guild.
Two thumbs up for this one!
Jascentia
Thu May 06, 2004 5:35 pm
#11
That sounds like a good idea, but it would require mountains of new code. It would also require figuring out such complex problems like... What happens if the PA Leader has all of their lots in use, but the guild is disbanded due to having too few members? The hall should go back to costing lots but there are no lots to be had...
Xyrdre
Sat May 08, 2004 6:45 pm
#12
Jascentia wrote:That sounds like a good idea, but it would require mountains of new code. It would also require figuring out such complex problems like... What happens if the PA Leader has all of their lots in use, but the guild is disbanded due to having too few members? The hall should go back to costing lots but there are no lots to be had...
Well, I know that PA halls are very expensive, but just thinking along these lines...
If PA halls really were looked at like civic structures (but for a guild), should they not just be destroyed if the guild is disbanded, as city hall is destroyed when a player city drops below 10 citizens for too long? The notion has its ups and downs, but the risk of destruction of the hall does offset the lack of lot costs in this model. On the other hand... would we really want them to work like this? Smaller guilds might be frightened to decorate their halls nicely in the event that the structure, and everything inside it, might just *poof*. This concept does discourage new guilds from forming.
I just throw these things out in the hopes that it might further the thinking for a solid, working model that could result in PA halls with 0 lot costs. Maybe something here will trigger an idea in another, and we can build from there.
ElRapoSuave
Tue May 11, 2004 9:30 am
#13
The donating lots idea is the best although it has problems.
having them cost 0 lots as long as they are owned by someone in the guild could be a major problem. That would allow people to drop 300 guild halls for storage because they are in the guild. Now if this worked for ONLY the guild leader....I'de have no problem with that. It would also have to only be done once.
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