Player Associations Archive

Thread: Revised: How to: Change Guild Leaders aka Set Allegiance

Rothin
Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:33 pm
#14

A total of 51% of the guild has to vote for any changes to occur. So unfortunately in your case, if only 10 voted it wouldn't make a difference. And on the 51% thing, if only 51% happened to vote then even if they votes were split between 2 people, the leader would still have 49% of the vote and would remain leader as well.


With the way PA voting works, it counts all votes and not just active ones. I'm hoping they will use the same voting system they just made for cities for PAs soon so that only active votes are counted. It will make things so much easier for us.



Rothin Skyshrine

Retired Galactic Senator
Former Player Association Correspondent
"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."

Rothin
Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:29 am
#15

The problem with that method though is not all guilds can ask their leader to leave because most of the time the leader is inactive more so than just wanting to quit. Also, there have been a lot of cases that when this method is used that when the old leader rejoins the guild they will either be moved right back to leader as soon as they join or they will be as soon as the next update hits.


That's why I'd prefer to see the city voting rules applied to guilds.



Rothin Skyshrine

Retired Galactic Senator
Former Player Association Correspondent
"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."

nefarious2
Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:26 pm
#16

This may not be the best solution if you want a new leader(but you do have to be the leader at the time you do this).


I was a leader of a guild for about 6 months, I wanted to move on, and some of the guild was leaving the game, we had about 6 members besides myself. I told everyone that I was going to do a /guildremove as I was going to another guild, also wanted to see what was going to happen, and when I did one of the guys told me that I removed myself from the guild and one of the remaining players was the leader.


So I guess if you are the leader then you can remove yourself and it will assign a new leader for the guild.



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Rothin
Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:35 pm
#17






nefarious2 wrote:

This may not be the best solution if you want a new leader(but you do have to be the leader at the time you do this).


I was a leader of a guild for about 6 months, I wanted to move on, and some of the guild was leaving the game, we had about 6 members besides myself. I told everyone that I was going to do a /guildremove as I was going to another guild, also wanted to see what was going to happen, and when I did one of the guys told me that I removed myself from the guild and one of the remaining players was the leader.


So I guess if you are the leader then you can remove yourself and it will assign a new leader for the guild.







It won't auto assign a leader for the guild, the position will remain null until someone sets allegiance for someone, then it will make them the leader.


However, if the old leader rejoins they will automatically become leader again because the system does not recognize them as ever being voted out.




Rothin Skyshrine

Retired Galactic Senator
Former Player Association Correspondent
"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."

_YakFace_
Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:54 am
#18






Rothin wrote:





nefarious2 wrote:

This may not be the best solution if you want a new leader(but you do have to be the leader at the time you do this).


I was a leader of a guild for about 6 months, I wanted to move on, and some of the guild was leaving the game, we had about 6 members besides myself. I told everyone that I was going to do a /guildremove as I was going to another guild, also wanted to see what was going to happen, and when I did one of the guys told me that I removed myself from the guild and one of the remaining players was the leader.


So I guess if you are the leader then you can remove yourself and it will assign a new leader for the guild.







It won't auto assign a leader for the guild, the position will remain null until someone sets allegiance for someone, then it will make them the leader.


However, if the old leader rejoins they will automatically become leader again because the system does not recognize them as ever being voted out.





I cant reply before because i had some problems with the forum, but i have to say you are wrong, sorry. Actually the guild leader come back to the terminal and he dont be reassigned as leader.




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Rothin
Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:06 am
#19






_YakFace_ wrote:





Rothin wrote:





nefarious2 wrote:

This may not be the best solution if you want a new leader(but you do have to be the leader at the time you do this).


I was a leader of a guild for about 6 months, I wanted to move on, and some of the guild was leaving the game, we had about 6 members besides myself. I told everyone that I was going to do a /guildremove as I was going to another guild, also wanted to see what was going to happen, and when I did one of the guys told me that I removed myself from the guild and one of the remaining players was the leader.


So I guess if you are the leader then you can remove yourself and it will assign a new leader for the guild.







It won't auto assign a leader for the guild, the position will remain null until someone sets allegiance for someone, then it will make them the leader.


However, if the old leader rejoins they will automatically become leader again because the system does not recognize them as ever being voted out.





I cant reply before because i had some problems with the forum, but i have to say you are wrong, sorry. Actually the guild leader come back to the terminal and he dont be reassigned as leader.







I'm speaking from personal experience from, so I know that a leader is not automatically assigned if the leader quits. When the leader rejoins all they have to do it go back to the mission terminal and give themselves permissions like they would any other member and they are back into the leadership position.


The only way that a new leader is assigned when the leader quits is if someone sets allegiance for a member and then someone will be moved to leader. If something else is happening, then it was changed at some point and not mentioned in patch notes or it is a new bug.



Rothin Skyshrine

Retired Galactic Senator
Former Player Association Correspondent
"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."

_YakFace_
Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:59 am
#20






Rothin wrote:





_YakFace_ wrote:





Rothin wrote:





nefarious2 wrote:

This may not be the best solution if you want a new leader(but you do have to be the leader at the time you do this).


I was a leader of a guild for about 6 months, I wanted to move on, and some of the guild was leaving the game, we had about 6 members besides myself. I told everyone that I was going to do a /guildremove as I was going to another guild, also wanted to see what was going to happen, and when I did one of the guys told me that I removed myself from the guild and one of the remaining players was the leader.


So I guess if you are the leader then you can remove yourself and it will assign a new leader for the guild.







It won't auto assign a leader for the guild, the position will remain null until someone sets allegiance for someone, then it will make them the leader.


However, if the old leader rejoins they will automatically become leader again because the system does not recognize them as ever being voted out.





I cant reply before because i had some problems with the forum, but i have to say you are wrong, sorry. Actually the guild leader come back to the terminal and he dont be reassigned as leader.







I'm speaking from personal experience from, so I know that a leader is not automatically assigned if the leader quits. When the leader rejoins all they have to do it go back to the mission terminal and give themselves permissions like they would any other member and they are back into the leadership position.


The only way that a new leader is assigned when the leader quits is if someone sets allegiance for a member and then someone will be moved to leader. If something else is happening, then it was changed at some point and not mentioned in patch notes or it is a new bug.





No, ok, that point is correct, the new leader have to wait to the update of the guild hall to be leader. But if the old leaderrejoin he dont be reinstaured as leader again.


We made this:


1. The old leaderremove himself from the guild


2. The new leader recive at leats one allegiance vote.


3. The old leader rejoins the guild.


4. In the next update the new leader was the leader's guild without problems



I dont know if this is a bug or what but i think this is a good system to work with it. Better than the other method


Edited: I forgot to comment that this was several months ago and we repeated this process the last month, so i think this is in the game since the beginning

Message Edited by _YakFace_ on 01-25-2005 03:01 PM



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Rothin
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:09 am
#21






_YakFace_ wrote:






Rothin wrote:





_YakFace_ wrote:





Rothin wrote:





nefarious2 wrote:

This may not be the best solution if you want a new leader(but you do have to be the leader at the time you do this).


I was a leader of a guild for about 6 months, I wanted to move on, and some of the guild was leaving the game, we had about 6 members besides myself. I told everyone that I was going to do a /guildremove as I was going to another guild, also wanted to see what was going to happen, and when I did one of the guys told me that I removed myself from the guild and one of the remaining players was the leader.


So I guess if you are the leader then you can remove yourself and it will assign a new leader for the guild.







It won't auto assign a leader for the guild, the position will remain null until someone sets allegiance for someone, then it will make them the leader.


However, if the old leader rejoins they will automatically become leader again because the system does not recognize them as ever being voted out.





I cant reply before because i had some problems with the forum, but i have to say you are wrong, sorry. Actually the guild leader come back to the terminal and he dont be reassigned as leader.







I'm speaking from personal experience from, so I know that a leader is not automatically assigned if the leader quits. When the leader rejoins all they have to do it go back to the mission terminal and give themselves permissions like they would any other member and they are back into the leadership position.


The only way that a new leader is assigned when the leader quits is if someone sets allegiance for a member and then someone will be moved to leader. If something else is happening, then it was changed at some point and not mentioned in patch notes or it is a new bug.





No, ok, that point is correct, the new leader have to wait to the update of the guild hall to be leader. But if the old leaderrejoin he dont be reinstaured as leader again.


We made this:


1. The old leaderremove himself from the guild


2. The new leader recive at leats one allegiance vote.


3. The old leader rejoins the guild.


4. In the next update the new leader was the leader's guild without problems



I dont know if this is a bug or what but i think this is a good system to work with it. Better than the other method


Edited: I forgot to comment that this was several months ago and we repeated this process the last month, so i think this is in the game since the beginning


Message Edited by _YakFace_ on 01-25-2005 03:01 PM





Ah, okay. I think I misunderstood you, but I got you now!


I'm going to try to get on TC soon and test some of the ins and outs of the allegiance process again just to see if anything has changed lately since it isn't something I encounter often. Not sure when I can do this since I'll have to get a PA hall and some volunteers to help, but I will let you guys know what I find out so I can also revise our bug lists.



Rothin Skyshrine

Retired Galactic Senator
Former Player Association Correspondent
"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."

FlanMacMilan
Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:58 pm
#22

I'm wondering...


If the owner of the PA hall is different than the leader, can the owner remove the PA hall, no questions asked?
Rothin
Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:59 pm
#23



FlanMacMilan wrote:
I'm wondering...
If the owner of the PA hall is different than the leader, can the owner remove the PA hall, no questions asked?




Yes.

The guild would then be without one unless the Leader or another member placed a new one.

However, remember that the PA Hall does NOT control the fate of the guild, so the owner of the hall can't disband or takeover the guild.



Rothin Skyshrine

Retired Galactic Senator
Former Player Association Correspondent
"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."

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