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Thread: I am so tired of seeing the complaining

Chi_Ro
Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:01 am
#1

Everytime i come to this board or the BH board all i see is at least 5-10 subjects about overpowered Bounty hunters saying "I got killed in a duel" blah blah blah. bounty hunters are supposed to be strong thats how it is this game is not based around PvP ill admit to alot of people thats what they enjoy most but asking to nerf a class to make them weaker then you doesnt fix that it just gets them complaining right back at you....



Bounty hunters need to be strong to take out there marks thats understandable would any pistoleer wanna go against someone with even a 5k HAM if they can kill you in two shots or even one shot? and still even if they nerf bounty hunters there will still be people who can hand you your ass on a platter cause they will master bounty hunter pistol, carb or rifle 4 alone with the spec tree and will be alot strong then both BH or the spec tree alone classespersonally i like pistols and I plan on mastering BH pistol 4 and PIstoleer skill tree simply cause it'll make me better at pistol period. thats my opinion so begin the complaining and insults i really dont care just stop trying to get everyone else weaker then you cause you got no concept of tactics master your skills if you cant kill someone figure out how they killed you and how to get around it...the end.

YetiIronfist
Sat Aug 02, 2003 8:57 am
#2

You have some good points, and I agree with much of what has been said, both by you and in general - BH takes a ton more points, BH is supposed to be *THE* pvp class and SHOULD kill every other class in pvp (which is why most that are interested in pvp go carbine + BH or pistol + BH - although rifle has some serious pvp strengths without the need to spend all the skill points), etc... Plus it's hard to do a great comparison right now when BH pistol line bonuses and specials are working, and Pistoleer specials and bonuses (especially defensive, and has anyone tested the accuracy while standing, accuracy while moving, etc... skills?) are not working well.

But anyway - I think your argument was going fine, until you weakened it by saying that the need to be able to kill your marks requires that the BH class be stronger. If the problem that needs to be addressed was that marks are too tough, then you make the marks easier to kill, you don't boost the BH's strength at the expense of game balance and every other class!
ThadeusZade
Sat Aug 02, 2003 9:13 am
#3

I have not once...ever....seen a post by a developer of this game ( and I have been following it for over a year)that said "Bounty Hunters are supposed to be the strongest PvP class in this game, and should be able to kill any other class 1v1" If you can show me or give me link to a similiar statement by a developer I will shut up. However, until that time, this statement is pure fiction pertetrated by overpowered Bounty Hunters (who know they have a Tier 1 carbine special that does over 1k damage AND knocks you down at range, or a pistol mind pool shot that is untreatable by medics and caps you in 1 shot), in order to stay that way.


Then you guys even furtherlose any validity when you use the arguements that "Well Jango and Boba were totally lEEt, so BH's shouldbe able to kill anyone too!". I can't tell you how desperate and stupid that sounds.




Thadeus Zade

"Keeping the BS Artists in check since 1969"
SmugglerFlux
Sat Aug 02, 2003 9:51 am
#4

Nobody wants Bounty Hunters nerfed. Give them nuclear rockets firing out of their arms, personal jetpacks on their backs that fly faster than any vehicle in the space expansion, and innate 100% resist to everything. Just replace their pistol line with that and I'll be happy.




Pistoleer 5 / CH 5 / Medic 4030
Caelrie
Sat Aug 02, 2003 10:54 am
#5






ThadeusZade wrote:

I have not once...ever....seen a post by a developer of this game ( and I have been following it for over a year)that said "Bounty Hunters are supposed to be the strongest PvP class in this game, and should be able to kill any other class 1v1" If you can show me or give me link to a similiar statement by a developer I will shut up. However, until that time, this statement is pure fiction pertetrated by overpowered Bounty Hunters (who know they have a Tier 1 carbine special that does over 1k damage AND knocks you down at range, or a pistol mind pool shot that is untreatable by medics and caps you in 1 shot), in order to stay that way.


Then you guys even furtherlose any validity when you use the arguements that "Well Jango and Boba were totally lEEt, so BH's shouldbe able to kill anyone too!". I can't tell you how desperate and stupid that sounds.






I haven't seen any devs saying that bounty hunters are supposed to be the supreme combatant, either.


Why are all the bounty hunters coming to the Pistoleer board and griping about bounty hunters? Go back to your own board!

Chi_Ro
Sat Aug 02, 2003 11:52 am
#6

im a bounty hunter and pistoleer so i have no problem posting on this board and never did i say they were "The elite PvP class" but since there marks are so hard to kill they have to be strong period which is gonna make them better in PvP which is needed by them for there profession but does overpower them in a PvP now i havent heard anyone say this but it might have been said so i am not taking credit for saying this but...why not just nerf knockdowns during PvP fights? wouldnt that stop all the complaining?

SmugglerFlux
Sat Aug 02, 2003 2:40 pm
#7

Amen FulminataXII, all excellent points.



Pistoleer 5 / CH 5 / Medic 4030
BadBens
Sat Aug 02, 2003 2:56 pm
#8

Great Point FulminataXII


They shouldn't nerf the Bounty Hunter, but increase the power of the other proffessions.




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"Experience is a hard teacher, she give the test first then the lesson
FulminataXII
Sun Aug 03, 2003 12:39 am
#9

Ok, I've resisted the temptation because I don't really think the BHs need nerfing, but the arguments I keep seeing to not have them nerfed don't make a lot of sense:


1) The game isn't about PvP so balance doesn't matter - this is so much utter bull$h!t. The only endgame in the game right now is PvP, and even if it wasn't, 90% of combat characters are going to want to PvP at some point, so you have to have balance in the combat classes or you will end up with everyone playing a BH. And don't give me any BS strawman arguments about master chefs taking on BHs, we're talking combat classes here.


2) BHs are badasses in the fiction, so they should be in the game - this is another lousy argument. BHs were also incredibly rare in the fiction, not every third person you meet on the street, which they soon will be in the game. Besides, according to the fiction, the best BH ever got taken out by a blind smuggler with a stick


3) BHs need their skills in order to take their marks - this one is simple, just nerf the marks. It's not like some non-BH can stumble upon a mark and take them out. It's silly that every mark in the galaxy is an uber fighter anyway.


What I'd really like to see the Dev's do is to fix the other combat classes rather than nerf the BHs, but they need to do one or the other to bring them into some kind of balance, or else everyone will end up playing BHs if they want to do combat, and that's bad for the game.

Bumhucca
Wed May 26, 2004 2:41 pm
#10






. Besides, according to the fiction, the best BH ever got taken out by a blind smuggler with a stick





ActuallyI think han was holding a vibro lance
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