Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Pistol Whip Weapon question from a WeaponSmith
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Stratego
Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:38 am
#1
Hi folks,
I'm trying to provide some unique and specialized weapons for the pistoleers in my galaxy. I was wondering if there is a particular pistol or configuration that might work especially well for those that like to pistol whip?
Is there a particular pistol that is more effective when pistol whipping? Is there a stat that should be boosted to increase the effectiveness of this attack? I seem to recall that this attack might be hard on the condition of the pistol, is that true?
Any ideas or suggestions are most welcome for pistol whip weapons as well as any other specialized configuration you've seen for pistols or would like to see. Thanks!
Stratego
Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:14 pm
#2
For pistol whipping, does the damage amount depend on the damage range of the gun and does it do the type of damage the gun does (e.g., energy, acid) or does it inflice kinetic damage?
Thanks for the input guys.
Golrok
Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:06 pm
#3
The dmg on PMD1 (pistol whip) is not really that great if I recall but thats not tooimportant cause its the KD we're after but good question though.
The dmg on PMD2 is weird. (same animation, no KD) Can't figure out the multiple on it. Sometimes its almost up there with last ditch- other times....??? =/
I love PMD1 to death. The animation, the KD. Stlyes.,.
WeiQuin
Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:27 am
#4
Not too sure if any one pistol is better than another when pistol whipping, but I know for certain it dramatically decreases the condition of the weapon.
CaixCatab
Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:34 am
#5
Seeing as it's melee range on it, I'd reckon a pistol specifically adapted to it would have it's accuracy top out at somewhere around 10m no?
Not sure how else to differentiate it from other guns tbh.
Vaelorn
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:43 am
#6
Basically, Pistol Whip is just like every other pistol attack, except the maximum range on it is around 7m. When NPCs pistol whip me, it does the same type of damage as the pistol they're using, and I've noticed the same thing when I've used it on MOBs. Is does *not* do kinetic damage by default. I don't think anyone ever uses it to do damage anyway; they just want to knock a MOB on it's butt for a few seconds and look cool doing it. 
It seems to me that the only thing a weaponsmith could do to a pistol to improve it's usefulness with the Pistol Whip attacks is to increase the point blank range modifier, since you can't even use the attack unless a MOB is right up in your face.Even then, the Pistol Whip attacks aren't used very frequently; most people would rather nail a MOB with Stopping Shot or Last Ditch, and probably only use the Pistol Whip to knock a MOB down in order to get in a few higher-damage hits due to the target being knocked down. In PvP it might put down a meleer and buy you a few seconds to run away, but with all the knockdown defenses in the game now that's probably not very likely.
Stratego
Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:50 am
#7
Thanks for the info guys!
Any ideas on other specialized pistols? How useful would you find enhanced Striker pistols for kinetic damage?
Vaelorn
Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:39 pm
#8
Most people just laugh when you even suggest using a Striker pistol in combat... and those people are mostly fools. 
How many times have you come across a MOB that was extremely resistant or downright invulnerable to ALL of your damage types? Well actually, that doesn't happen very often, but when it does, what do you do? You can't hurt the MOB, and ranged combat professions can't tank worth a damn either, so then what? You can either use your Novice Medic skills to drop Stim Bs on the swordsman doing the real tanking, or you can stand around with your thumb up your... WAIT! What?!? You mean I have a KINETIC pistol?!?
I can actually hurt this MOB with a kinetic pistol!!! Gimmegimme gimme!!! 
Striker pistols are extremely poor performers in everyday situations, due to their very low damage and their lack of armor piercing ability. However, when you're fighting something like a Nightsister who's completely immune to Heat, Acid, Stun, and Energy, well, at least that Kinetic Striker pistol will do *something* to help. Since well-made Striker pistols are typically only used for very special circumstances, then it's usually in everyone's best interest to use the absolute best components available in their construction, so get all of the special parts that you can find and try to get some decent damage on that little pop gun. Special tool means special price, but the market for such special tools is virtually non-existant, so you may want to just stick with special orders instead of keeping any in stock.
Jpshaff01
Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:40 pm
#9
Stratego wrote:
Thanks for the info guys!
Any ideas on other specialized pistols? How useful would you find enhanced Striker pistols for kinetic damage?
Striker may become more usegull now since BH was changed and alot of people have the all pistols template. If there was an effective way to enhance them that would work great for pistol loving NS hunters. I havent used a striker for a long time, basically since i had a melee master with my template. I havent looted an of the high velocity feed mechs from nyms and i kill them all the time, the gorax doesnt spwan anymore. So i geuss that leaves you with spider fangs. Hope that helps you out mazor.
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