Pistoleer Archive
Thread: im sad now :(
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BleebleDorf
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:05 pm
#1
kk, im mbh/mpistols/4000 combat medic...
and i think im gonna have to drop mpistoleer and take up mcarbines (rifles too slow for my liking)
u see, ive got this 967dmg featherweight fwg5, that i havnt used yet, cos i refuse to till i adk it...
but im reading everywhere and getting this horrible feeling in my gut, that im not gonna be able to make much of a dent in jedi, or other pvpers for that matter 
does anyone here hunt jedi successfully as a pistoleer? if so pls tell me... im loosing faith and i love pistoleer and i dont want to have to change just to stand a chance at winning 
scathing
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:11 pm
#2
Jedi is going to be hard no matter what. damn near impossible to take a knight solo but regular people you should be neck and neck with and be able to have a lot of fun if you use your moves right and use the right tactics.
Practice a lot. In the past week I have tought myself a lot for pvp by dueling a lot of people. I have to say that I did not loose one duel today. I do have a few more moves than you but with the moves that you have, You can hit a person with a lot of damage with the right combos. Just play around and experiment a lot. Duel some of your jedi friends and learn.
BleebleDorf
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:19 pm
#3
its dueling my jedi mates thats got me scared 
using my 750 max dmg dueling pistol i dont think i could get a lvl 69 padawan past 70% of his health...
ive got a mate who has the same template as me, but with carbs instead of pistols... and ive seen him demolish jedi, he just kicks out too much dmg for them to handle,on many occasions, and thats not even with a top end loot made weapon, thats with a proton carbine.
Adefo-Oami
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:57 pm
#4
I have to disagree with the knight statement. I've killed over 20 knights solo on my server since the CU release day. Only ones that give trouble are master defenders. Solo'd 3 of those so far.
scathing wrote:
Jedi is going to be hard no matter what. damn near impossible to take a knight solo but regular people you should be neck and neck with and be able to have a lot of fun if you use your moves right and use the right tactics.
Practice a lot. In the past week I have tought myself a lot for pvp by dueling a lot of people. I have to say that I did not loose one duel today. I do have a few more moves than you but with the moves that you have, You can hit a person with a lot of damage with the right combos. Just play around and experiment a lot. Duel some of your jedi friends and learn.
edit: hehe, back on topic, that pistol of yours is damn nice, and you'll be able to take jedi pretty easily if you know what your doing. Since i've gone pistoleer, I haven't lost a single duel to any non-jedi. My temp is master pistoleer, bh 3410, 4004 doc. Buff myself with adrenal boost and your a speed demon with a pistol. Plus you got 1030 heals if you got a droid out. The tactic I use it to put a nice barrel on my pistol (thanks jack :smileyvery-happy
, mine are 33% max dmg 9% speed penalty, and switch between placed shot and ranged shot. The damage is nice, the cooldown is very low, and your action lasts forever.
So in closing
you should keep pistoleer, i've finally found it to be my true love 
Message Edited by Adefo-Oami on 06-15-2005 08:02 PM
Jhess
Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:17 pm
#5
BleebleDorf wrote:
kk, im mbh/mpistols/4000 combat medic...
and i think im gonna have to drop mpistoleer and take up mcarbines (rifles too slow for my liking)
u see, ive got this 967dmg featherweight fwg5, that i havnt used yet, cos i refuse to till i adk it...
but im reading everywhere and getting this horrible feeling in my gut, that im not gonna be able to make much of a dent in jedi, or other pvpers for that matter
does anyone here hunt jedi successfully as a pistoleer? if so pls tell me... im loosing faith and i love pistoleer and i dont want to have to change just to stand a chance at winning
Pistols are completly different playstyle than rifles or carbines, the amount of control pistols gives me is alot better than a small increase in damage that the rifles gives. Ive been both, and the clear winner, for me, is pistols. Long lasting root, KINETIC damage, dirt cheap max damage weapons(bought a 800 max dmg scatter for like 40k) , intimidation, warning shot (warning shot, KD, Crit shot = nasty) .. Pistols arent all about burst DPS , they are about contol. If youre that kind of player, youll love pistols.
you really should drop 4000 cm and pick up 3001 cm. you get a nasty snare with it, and only lose a small amount of healing power.
NaKitNa
Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:03 pm
#6
Jedi just got a large power boost today with their lightsabers. Almost twice the damage they previously had. My friend went from dealing around 300-500 points of damage in pvp to 600-900 points of damage a hit. And now with force run on a toggle, they have speed at their finger tips for relatively low cost. It depends on the template you come across as well. I have not had any luck against Jedi Knights solo. They all heal far faster than I can heal. This is of course straight up I am talking about. I have taken several while they are recouping from another battle, even then its about a 50/50 chance. I would like to see some screen shots of a pistol/bh taking down a jedi knight straight up, in particularly a combat log. The fact that they have a force pool typcially of around 6000 compared to my action of around 3200 with a buff, some more with pixie or other spices, puts me at a disadvantage. Really its the heling that does me in. Doctor could be a nice team with pistoleer though. Those doc buffs regarding spd is quite spectacular, and usually dont have a doc close enough when hunting jedi to offer a buff before combat, let alone just healing more than once per minute.
In a couple published the word is they will be cutting many jedi force costs by half-per the devs. This could make things impossible.
When dealing with jedi though, dont forget to use disarm so you can set up a good chain of attacks. Getting a knockdown followed by some up close shots can really be devastating. Course if that knockdown doesnt go as intended you can always use disarm again to give yourself some time before tasting a lightsaber up close.
In a couple published the word is they will be cutting many jedi force costs by half-per the devs. This could make things impossible.
When dealing with jedi though, dont forget to use disarm so you can set up a good chain of attacks. Getting a knockdown followed by some up close shots can really be devastating. Course if that knockdown doesnt go as intended you can always use disarm again to give yourself some time before tasting a lightsaber up close.
Uthyr
Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:40 am
#7
Just to play advocate for rifles here, since I too have been both a pistoleer (for a long time) and a rifleman...
There are kinetic-damage rifles: the Tusken rifle, the LD-1 (quest reward), and the Fallan Hyper Rifle. The amount of damage you gain from a rifle is not trivial--1200+ damage rifles (un-PuP'd) are not uncommon. If you choose carefully how you pair up Rifleman with another profession, you can have a set of specials that are every bit as effective a build that includesPistoleer (just in different ways). Having played both, I don't think one profession is any better or necessarily more effective than the other, it's really just a matter of which playstyle you prefer. Personally, I hated being restricted to 35m from my target (after having been a 64m pistoleer for so long pre-CU, it was just too hard to give up), which is the main reason why I switched professions, but for people who like being relatively up-close, Pistoleer is an excellent profession.
Jhess wrote:
different playstyle than rifles or carbines, the amount of control pistols gives me is alot better than a small increase in damage that the rifles gives. Ive been both, and the clear winner, for me, is pistols. Long lasting root, KINETIC damage, dirt cheap max damage weapons(bought a 800 max dmg scatter for like 40k) , intimidation, warning shot (warning shot, KD, Crit shot = nasty) .. Pistols arent all about burst DPS , they are about contol. If youre that kind of player, youll love pistols.
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