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Thread: DL44 335 dps / 116 sac worth using an ADK?

Omegaplex
Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:28 am
#1

I haven't seen many DL44's, but this one seems pretty awesome. It's krayted, of course



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BadgerSmaker
Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:34 am
#2

*bites his tongue*


I'm afraid you have wasted your krayt tissues in a horrendous way. Have a read of the sticky on pistol buying... it explains all.





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Omegaplex
Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:35 am
#3



Haven't actually bought it yet, but thanks for the insight


Plus, I'm not a pistoleer, so sac doesn't mean much to me. I'm looking at the DX because it doesn't require any pistol skill, and seems pretty fast w/good damage output at a base level.



I just figured the guys here would know pistolas

Message Edited by Omegaplex on 06-20-2005 03:37 AM



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BadgerSmaker
Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:37 am
#4


Phew!


I'd be tempted to buy it just so I could destroy it and no Pistoleer would have to suffer from its horrific action costs... evil... bad gun!!!!


You can get really good dl44xt's with under 85 SAC that are damage capped depending on what tissues you use.


Say you use +180 tissues, you can actually reach the hard cap for max damage on the DL44XT schematic and have low SAC so theres no excuse for a gun with 116 SAC.


The weaponsmith has gone all out for DPS on that one it seems.

Message Edited by BadgerSmaker on 06-20-2005 11:56 AM



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Rogue135
Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:47 am
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BadgerSmaker wrote:

Phew!


I'd be tempted to buy it just so I could destroy it and no Pistoleer would have to suffer from its horrific action costs... evil... bad gun!!!!






Yeah, it's pretty sad just how bad the most iconic pistol in the game is now. I had a really nice on pre-CU that really took a hit along with my DE-10.




Note: I refuse to count the Metal and XT versions as iconic, sorry to everyone that swears by them, I just can't stand them.



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Kodpese
Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:14 am
#6

I'm finding it really difficult to find any pistols for sale with less than 100 SAC, most are 115.


It's amazing the difference it makes getting one with 85 SAC or lower.




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Nifty
Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:28 am
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Kodpese wrote:

I'm finding it really difficult to find any pistols for sale with less than 100 SAC, most are 115.


It's amazing the difference it makes getting one with 85 SAC or lower.





That's because the Weaponsmith is going to max out damage on the pistol before moving to lowering SAC. To hit the damage cap quick so that you can bring the SAC down to "good" levels, you need tissues or shards. Most 'smiths aren't going to place tissue/shard guns on their vendors. They usually do those custom jobs by special request (or at least, that's what I gather from reading everyone else's experiences.)



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BadgerSmaker
Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:34 am
#8

A lot of weaponsmiths are still experimenting in only damage and speed to get DPS up as that's what sells.



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Jasef
Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:22 am
#9

I ran an interestign experiemnt the other day wth a bunch of 130-ish tissues, I had four Scatters made, each one focusing on somethign different- Damage Speed, Damage SAC, All-out SAC, Best Overall combo.

I can say that weaponsmithing is absolutely not as cut and dry as it used to be, and my smith and I got some excellent results on what to try better next time...



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bgold4
Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:28 am
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Nifty wrote:






Kodpese wrote:

I'm finding it really difficult to find any pistols for sale with less than 100 SAC, most are 115.


It's amazing the difference it makes getting one with 85 SAC or lower.





That's because the Weaponsmith is going to max out damage on the pistol before moving to lowering SAC. To hit the damage cap quick so that you can bring the SAC down to "good" levels, you need tissues or shards. Most 'smiths aren't going to place tissue/shard guns on their vendors. They usually do those custom jobs by special request (or at least, that's what I gather from reading everyone else's experiences.)






and sadly they experiment on damage on the components and SAC on the final [terrible mistake]



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Omegaplex
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:13 pm
#11

I don't actually have pistoleer; I'm looking for a good 'no prerequisites' weapon.


So the only special i'll be using is probably overcharge shot, if that.


So sac isn't all that important for basic attacks, just dps, right?



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SpunkyKuma
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:20 pm
#12

On my WS alt I made a decent DL44 XT with krayt tissues, 1.89 base speed 375?-806 312 base DPS with 94 SAC, seems alot of WS ignore SAC when making krayt or high damage weapons.



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