Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Speed and Accuracy or Defense?
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NeoEcks
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:30 am
#1
i guess this question really could be asked in any of the elite combat threads (well almost any) but i thought i would post it here because so many professions pick up Pistoleer skills for the defenses.
the question is rather obvious: if only given the option to take one set of skills, should one take Speed and Accuracy or Defense?
the quetion is age old, it is the concept i am stumbling on. there are two schools of thought 'the best defense is a good offense' and 'the best offense isa good defense'. in game i personally lean toward the good offense school of thought. get him before he gets you. before i go any further please let me explain that i am 99.9% a PvE player, so ALL of this thought process i am going through applies to Mobs and NPCs, not living, breathing, thinking, uber l33t player characters.
in-game it seems to me that if i can hit my target more times than he/she/it can hit me (accuracy) and to that more often (speed) then by sheer brute force, even spread out over mutlipul pools if not using specials, i will deal more damage per second than i receive and win the confrontation. battles SHOULD be short this way and allow time for a bit of healing if needed.
on the other hand, if your opponent cannot hit you (defense) there will really be no need to heal, and you can take a bit of extra time to finish a fight because you need not worry about the damage per second you will be taking. it will be low because of your defenses. i am NOT talking about template stacking here because that is being 'fixed' with pub7. what i AM talking about is taking something like 2020 (defense) vs. 0202 (offense) in conjuntion with a skill set like those in Bounty Hunter or Smuggler
so my question remains, do i deal out as much DPS as i can with speed and accuracy? or do i avoid as much damage as i can with defense?
Kammots-Ahazi
Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:55 pm
#2
Well if you went BH with BH/Pistols you would get speed and accuracy from there also. I would still go with pistol speed in pistoleer because of the mele defence is in the same skill box. I personally love dodge and when I was only lvl2 in that it was really cool to see how some things missed like crazy.
"so my question remains, do i deal out as much DPS as i can with speed and accuracy? or do i avoid as much damage as i can with defense?"
Although I love the defence and think I may be contradicting myself (damn ADD).. without the speed and accuracy you will be hating it. Pistols are not high dmg dealers, and when you only hit for small amounts .. missing here and there really adds up.
Hope that helped .. probably not .. good luck
Ametrand
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:31 pm
#3
well, you can always just get a bio-engineered tissue shirt with +25 rangfed and melee defense on it, and with +25 dodge, +25 pistol speed/accuracy
then go for master smuggler so you get melee damage mitigation 1 which rocks- add on some kinetic resistarmor with heat and electric resist also and youre good to go 
a krayt crafted geo blaster like mine cant hurt also lol
NeoEcks
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:54 pm
#4
great!
thank you both for your input. i think i will go ahead and concentrate on speed and accuracy an use BE clothing and attachments to make up some of the defence.
thanks again for your help 
mka
Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:34 am
#5
He's talking about Clothing attachments, not BE tissues. And +25 skill tapes are very very rare and very very expensive.
The only worthwhile BE tissues aviable for you are the +14 stun defense/+4 melee defense ones.
Regarding your original question, I'd also go for speed and accuracy and just stay mobile to avoid damage.
Joubei_businessman
Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:58 am
#6
well i saw your post and could only tell you about my experience.
when i was getting MBH,
i stopped leveling for about a month i was master Pistoleer and had BH pistol 0040.
with a good Scatter pistol, and with a composite suit of armor 60%+ with a good set of Buffs i could become a God.
going on rampages on Dantooine and Dathomir. i remember one time i took on 8 Graul Maulers!!!
i was soo fast with the Stopping shot and the Torso Shot, that they just fall on me.... in the end i was baried under 8 corpses of them, was very very funny and totaly Cool.
also i'll remind you as pistoleer/BH you not only get Health Shot 1 & Health Shot 2 but also Bleed Shoot and Torso Shot) thats 4 bleeds stackable. 3 are on the Health pool and 1 is rendom (bleed shot)
on the other hand.
my next holo told me (surprise) gotta love holos.... TKM
well i dumped slowly but surely the entire BH (crying all the way)
and all the while getting back my master Pistoleer.
now i'm TKM + Mpistoleer.
i'll tell u this now
i dont get hit
last time i was on endor i took on 12 Gurracks, and had hardly a scratch.
i DON'T USE ARMOR!
with 105 Dodge
and with 110 Melee Defence (well under the cap for pub 8)
i almost never get hit, and when i do, i just dodge it.
the dmg is nice, not as fast, but respectable, i do about 2k/sec dmg, with stopping shots.
with my Dx2 or my Rep blaster, or Sonic Blaster or Fwg5, all depending on the target at hand.
there is no big stacking on the Bleeds and i'm not as fast as i used to be as BH but
i dont lose armor condition
i dont die as often
and
nice thing about TK meditation is - i can PowerBoost (kind of like self buffs gives 1/2 of mind to all 3 main Hams)
and at 4-0-0-0 you heal your own wounds bleeds, posion and disease, in iteself is very nice thing (no down time)
its hard choise no question,
so after all this, i can sum up to this conclusion
PICK the combo that is most FUN for you bro.
dont worry about defence or offence. if you have fun you did the right combo!
if you like to be master dodger go with Mpistoleer / TKM
if you like to be Damage Inc. go with Mpistoleer / BH pistol 4
remember the guns and tactics you use are big part of your success in battle, and any tamplate can work, but not every tamplate would be good for everyone,
(or we would have the same profession combo on everyone in SWG, and only that)
fact is we have 10,000s of people on our server, and each has their own way to go about things.
i hope this helps a bit.
yours Joubei.
Message Edited by Joubei_businessman on 03-15-2004 04:17 AM
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