Pistoleer Archive

Ok, so i dropped all my medic and artisan skills(except novice medic for stim b's) and mastered scout and marksman over the weekend. I have up to stopping shot, melee defence1 and int pistol marksmanship(will drop marksmanship for master stances). I have up to bounty pistol2 and bounty carbine 1.

So far, I'm pistol god!!! Yeah, I'm that stong. Stopping shot is my favorite pve shot. It now fires at least twice as fast from when i was just a pistoleer (61pistol speed with BP4 and a 2 speed scatter). I'm also a 2/2/0/0 CH (gorge vesp is my pet of choice, 9k ham and a nice ranged attack). Thing is, i can solo nyms with ease without my pet out.. Yeah, nyms.

I'm on Bloodfin so i pvp everyday (that i play). Last night, 5 imps came to anchorhead with a few AT-ST's. I've macro my carbine to equip, fire one underhand shot, then re-equip my scatter(awesome weapon). I killed them all... All of them in under a minute. They were buffed up on pixie so it made thier mind look really weak. So, underhand, eyeshot, eyeshot... All dead. I'm starting to feel like the Bounty Hunter in KoToR. 1.... 2.... 3.... This style won't be effected much with the upcoming change to knockdowns. I killed each one of those guys in about 3 or 4 shots; about 10 seconds each. While they were down, eyeshot was hitting for 350-400.

In the end, i can't reccomend anyone go this route. I'm seriously overpowered and know a nerf is coming, and fast. Eyeshot is gonna take a beat down from the nerf bat. I'm also fearing some of the pistol speed and accuracy will be moved up to master BH. The point of this is: Pistoleers are obscenely out classed, out damaged and out gunned by pistol wielding bounty hunters, by a long ways.

Yup, still makes for a good laugh. Lots of balance issues, wonder how you will fair after -75% gets added...

what a stupid post . if you killed 4 IMP they problably were loading in from the shuttle or dont know how to play the game . you think BH is overpower , maybe someday soon when youre back in the "tubes" (cloning center) ,youll be thinking : im here cause of a smuggler??? whasent i suposed to the the ubber with master pistoler+BH dabbling?

I will never cry for a nerf but I'm always going to express my opinion. Eyeshot is overpowered, mainly because its given at Pistol tier II (it doesnt' take long to get it). Mind dmg already is pretty F'n scary. Whats even scarier is when one of the best "overall" pistols in the galaxy is used to deliver a targetted mind shot, thats just deadly.I do feel its overpowered and I wouldn't be surprised if the devs don't nerf it. They need to put it on the LLC branch for pete's sake.

so you have speed mods from the pistoleer tree AND the BH tree, yet its the BH tree that is the sole reason for you being overpowered....

hmmmm

Seriously, you are calling BHs overpowered because you are overpowered, and yet you are not a BH, you are a BH/pistoleer hybrid. So, what you mean to say is that this hybrid is overpowered. BHs get the nerfbat because of Pistoleer taking BH pistol skills. Why not just call for a limit to dabbling? Most BHs would prefer that Pistoleers and BHs could not dabble in each other's skills. I say this even though I as a BH took Novice Pistoleer for the DX2 (no scatter on my server) and Healthshot2. As for eyeshot, our correspondent had to retire becuase of the flames he got suggesting that eyeshot be moved up the tree, but many agree with him. If eyeshot being limited to dedicated BHs and not hybrids would help BHs avoid these kind of "overpowered" nerfing posts, Im all for it.

All the decent pistoleer skills are pretty high up in the skill tree. All the bounty hunter skills that are very good are rather low in the bounty hunter tree. Maybe we need to see eyeshot and scatter pistol moved to pistol 4 and MBH. The only thing a bounty hunter would want the pistoleer line for is some accuracy mods, extra speed mods(to easily cap out at +100) and stopping shot. Stopping shot is not loved by alot of pistoleers because it is slow unless you have alot of speed mods. Like bounty hunters do. So basicly, bounty hunters just leach a few things off the pistoleer line. There is no point in a bounty hunter mastering bounty hunter or pistoleer. They get their scatter pistol, eye shot, and alot of speed mods from bounty hunter(+10 per box). Pistoleer line only offers +6 speed per box.

If these two are so balanced like alot of bounty hunters say, then pistoleers should have scatter pistols and eye shot. We can give bounty hunters DX2s and bodyshot3. Since we are balanced this shoudn't be a problem right? Your class specific pistol and pool targeted attack for the pistoleers.

Hah.

What decent pistoleer skills? Help me out here.

I have eyeshot ... Master Pistoleer was way harder to get. I levelled up scout anyway without even trying, so the only thing I had to do was get Carbine Specialist and Rifle Specialist, which was annoying but way easier than the whole Pistoleer tree.

This is great; they're nerfing the eyeshot. hahaahahhahaha.

This is really going to boost my bh-killing career.

I'm a dancer by day, and a bh hunter by night. Yes!

So you saying that BH is wayoverpowered because they have the ability to swap weapons, and use different specials??? Why not just become a Master Pistoleer/Master Carbineer, you could have Charge shot 2(AoE Knockdown), crippling shot, stopping shot, fan shot, and body shot 3.

No, you'd rather be a pistoleer, get some BH combat skills and declare that your overpowered.

The biggest debate has been that Pistoleers/Carbineers don't believe that BH should be better than they are with a pistol/carbine, this is something I agree with, my point is a MP or MC shouldn't be able to beat a MBH 1on1. A MBH has the ability to swap weapons and use whatever special will gim him the advantage.

Key word in this is MASTER...

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CaspianLightseeker wrote:
Seriously, you are calling BHs overpowered because you are overpowered, and yet you are not a BH, you are a BH/pistoleer hybrid. So, what you mean to say is that this hybrid is overpowered. BHs get the nerfbat because of Pistoleer taking BH pistol skills. Why not just call for a limit to dabbling? Most BHs would prefer that Pistoleers and BHs could not dabble in each other's skills. I say this even though I as a BH took Novice Pistoleer for the DX2 (no scatter on my server) and Healthshot2. As for eyeshot, our correspondent had to retire becuase of the flames he got suggesting that eyeshot be moved up the tree, but many agree with him. If eyeshot being limited to dedicated BHs and not hybrids would help BHs avoid these kind of "overpowered" nerfing posts, Im all for it.

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No, I think he said that the specials BHs get early on in their pistol and carbine trees are overpowered. I and many others are astounded by the superiority of the relatively easy-to-get underhand shot and eye shot compared to the pistoleer specials that require many times more weapons and combat experience to get.

I am a pure master pistoleer. It frustrates me to know that if I wanted to, I could give up my ranger skills and within a matter of a day's play I could fill in the carbine and rifle marsksman boxes, get novice BH, and have underhand shot and eyeshot in my abilities box, and those specials would put my ENTIRE tree of pistoleer specials to shame.

Compare eyeshot (400k pistol xp after novice BH) to BS3 (775k pistol xp after novice pistoleer)...

Compare underhand shot (150k carbine xp after novice BH) to Disarm2 (3.676 million pistol xp and 415k combat xp after novice pistoleer)...

It doesn't make sense for pistoleers to get so much more xp for our "good" specials, and all Joe Noob has to do to beat me in PvP 1v1 is master marksman and scout (oh yes so hard and time consuming lol), get novice BH or smuggler, go kill some stuff, and voila!...they have all they are going to need to be as dangerous a PvPer as I.

Bleh...yes it's a rant'n rave but maybe all this repition will drive home our point .

You say eyeshot is soooo easy to get. Have you spent the time to actually aquire the skill? I have and it is no picnic to get. Bounty hunters bitch about pistoleers, and pistoleers bitch about bounty hunters. What about riflemen? I wish everyone would quite calling for nerfs. Let the game go a little while and get stable. Why nerf something when other (bigger) things need fixed. Those who cry nerf need to look over their shoulder, becuase they will be nerfed next.