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Thread: Question concerning Armor....AGAIN :)

bounty13
Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:40 am
#1

I realize there are a lot of factors that may determine what armor is best for which type of player so I fugured I'd let everyone know mainly what I chose to do...and that's mainly PvE both mobs and creatures. I just recently hit Novice Pistoleer (omw to Master) and Master Marksman (omw to Novice BH) and have been contemplating switching to Comp Arm and ditching my ubese. I just can't decide if having all the encumberance of Comp outweighs the benefit of the 'best' armor. I greatly appreciate any and ALL responses and opinions on this matter!




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RenKesson
Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:48 am
#2

If you fight buffed, encumberance doesn't make a difference one way or the other. Doctor and Entertainer enhancements negate any effect armor encumberances has on your weapon HAM costs.


If you fight unbuffed, you need only wear chest, gloves, boots, and helm to receive full protection over your entire body. Leggings, bracers, armor biceps (the last two being non-existant in Ubese armor) don't add any extra protection because of a kind of armor bug. That's why you'll see PvPers wearing only chest plates, helmets, gloves and boots. The only thing the bracers, biceps, and leggings do is prevent secondary wounds, in my experience.


So, basically, I think if you wear comp chest, comp helmet, comp gloves, and comp boots, you'll be fine. But that's PvP. In PvE, 73% kinetic (yeah, I've had that on an Ubese armor suit) is really enough to absorb most damage. I'd recommend Ubese Jacket, Gloves, and Boots. It depends on your style of play, tbh. I rarely fight unbuffed, but that's me. When I fight unbuffed, a chest plate is really all I can afford.


So, if buffed, then Comp is your best bet.

If Unbuffed, go with Ubese.


Energy and Kinetic are the best resists you want to look for when fighting Mobs and Creatures.



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PercyBlackdragon
Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:38 pm
#3






RenKesson wrote:

If you fight buffed, encumberance doesn't make a difference one way or the other. Doctor and Entertainer enhancements negate any effect armor encumberances has on your weapon HAM costs.


If you fight unbuffed, you need only wear chest, gloves, boots, and helm to receive full protection over your entire body. Leggings, bracers, armor biceps (the last two being non-existant in Ubese armor) don't add any extra protection because of a kind of armor bug. That's why you'll see PvPers wearing only chest plates, helmets, gloves and boots. The only thing the bracers, biceps, and leggings do is prevent secondary wounds, in my experience.


So, basically, I think if you wear comp chest, comp helmet, comp gloves, and comp boots, you'll be fine. But that's PvP. In PvE, 73% kinetic (yeah, I've had that on an Ubese armor suit) is really enough to absorb most damage. I'd recommend Ubese Jacket, Gloves, and Boots. It depends on your style of play, tbh. I rarely fight unbuffed, but that's me. When I fight unbuffed, a chest plate is really all I can afford.


So, if buffed, then Comp is your best bet.

If Unbuffed, go with Ubese.


Energy and Kinetic are the best resists you want to look for when fighting Mobs and Creatures.






I wear armor like this:


PvE- always ubese, unless you get cheap grind quality composite - for the money/grinding/constant beating value. I always get ubese because its cheaper to replace when the condition gets low, and if you do a lot of PvE it will. Most if not all ubese is made with PvE in mind (i.e. high kinetic damage resistance) and because of this, prices are fair. If money isnt an issue for you I'd still get ubese and spend the cash somewhere else.


PvP - always composite, As Ren said all you need is helm,boots,chest and gloves to be ok. High end Comp can cost a pretty penny so thats one reason I only wear it in PvP. If you PvP alot (which I do) always get 2 of each thing and put the other set in your bank or droid to avoid decay.






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Uthyr
Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:41 pm
#4






RenKesson wrote:


If you fight unbuffed, you need only wear chest, gloves, boots, and helm to receive full protection over your entire body. Leggings, bracers, armor biceps (the last two being non-existant in Ubese armor) don't add any extra protection because of a kind of armor bug. That's why you'll see PvPers wearing only chest plates, helmets, gloves and boots. The only thing the bracers, biceps, and leggings do is prevent secondary wounds, in my experience.



While it is true that boots, gloves, helmet, and chest plate give you 100% protection, your armor will last longer (armor condition) if you are wearing a full set. So, if you are buffed (and you don't mind carrying the extra pieces in your inventory when it's not equipped), you may as well wear the extra pieces, unless mind encumbrance is a problem for your playing style. If you're not buffed, then I agree with Ren, just wear the 4-piece set. You can also get some nice low-encumbrance comp if you shop around. That's what I wear--I'd rather have less damage protectionand be able to spam my specials with minimal HAM cost when I'm not buffed, personally, but I'm an exclusively PvE player. Basically, every time you shoot a special, it's as if you are taking damage from being hit (except without the wounds or states), so it's really just a trade off, and depends on your playing style. I've been doing a lot of experiemnting with armor, foods, etc. to make me a more viable player when unbuffed (partly in preparation for the upcoming CURB), and the challenge is really making the game much more enjoyable for me than when I used to run around constantly buffed.





RenKesson wrote:


In PvE, 73% kinetic (yeah, I've had that on an Ubese armor suit) is really enough to absorb most damage.




Ubese is great for kinetic damage protection (against creatures) because of its low encumbrance, but formobs with other weapon types, you'll definitely want comp. Ubese will get damaged (not to mention yourself) at a much faster rate if it is taking hits from damage types for which it is vulnerable. Also, I am routinely able to buy 77% kinetic ubese, but I'm sure its availability varies from server to server.




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RenKesson
Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:44 pm
#5


Whenever I hunt stormtroopers, I always make sure I have energy resistant armor on. Can Ubese armor be made as effective with Energy resists as it is with Kinetic?





Oh, and Percy: FIRST!

Message Edited by RenKesson on 12-15-2004 11:45 AM



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PercyBlackdragon
Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:48 pm
#6






RenKesson wrote:


Whenever I hunt stormtroopers, I always make sure I have energy resistant armor on. Can Ubese armor be made as effective with Energy resists as it is with Kinetic?





Oh, and Percy: FIRST!

Message Edited by RenKesson on 12-15-2004 11:45 AM





I'm just gonna start my own threads from now on, that way I know I'm first



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RenKesson
Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:53 pm
#7

ROFL!





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Uthyr
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:03 am
#8






RenKesson wrote:


Can Ubese armor be made as effective with Energy resists as it is with Kinetic?




Not to my knowledge--I've certainly never seen any Ubese with any substantial Energy resists after all the shopping I've done for the stuff (and I own many sets of Ubese). It's really designed to be kinetic armor--it's good for hunting. The only time I'll wear Ubese is if I am hunting exclusively kinetic-damaging targets, with little chance that a random mob with another weapon type will attack me unexpectedly.I wouldn't wear the stuff if I was cruising through potentially dangerous territory on my swoop.


I also occasionally hunt with no armor at all, if I am fairly confident that I can take out a lair withoutanything getting within melee range (and if I'm hunting something that can't spit acid at me). That way I can spam away with my specials with minimal HAM cost.



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PercyBlackdragon
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:09 am
#9






RenKesson wrote:


Can Ubese armor be made as effective with Energy resists as it is with Kinetic?





I think bone armor's main resist is energy - not to say it's in the 70's or anything. I have gone Faction hunting in a set before. Encumbrance is fairly low and the resists were high enough that I was in no real danger, that and its fun to get use out of something that no one ever wears anymore.



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