Pistoleer Archive

Unless something has changed, Stopping Shot could be any range of time from 1 second to 100 seconds. Without BH mods or Master Marksman though, you could get close to 1 second per SS with that fast gun, but it would still be barely over. Not likely to be apparent in the time stamped spam untilyou've fired over 25 shots, as it would be firing at 1.04 seconds.

I am a master pistoleer and master marksman and I spam stopping shot very quickly...somewhere in the 1.1 or 1.2 time frame. This is a my favorite shot now. Anyone how isn't a master pistoleer yet and is unhappy with the delay...just wait until you make master, you'll love the shot.

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MaliceMarcus wrote:
I am a master pistoleer and master marksman and I spam stopping shot very quickly...somewhere in the 1.1 or 1.2 time frame. This is a my favorite shot now. Anyone how isn't a master pistoleer yet and is unhappy with the delay...just wait until you make master, you'll love the shot.

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It all depends on the speed of your gun. You don't hit the one second speed cap with StoppingShot, as a Master Pistoleer, unless you have a gun that is under 1.0 speed. Your estimate, that you're hitting with StoppingShot every 1.2 seconds or so, is probably a little bit low. With a 1.4 speed gun, you hit every 1.456 seconds with StoppingShot.

Don't get TOO excited about StoppingShot. If you're firing it every 1.456 seconds you're spitting out more damage than you would be with BodyShot3, but since StoppingShot is random HAM you'll actually take longer to kill anything because only 55% of your shots will hit Health instead of 100% of your shots.

StoppingShot doesn't become better than BodyShot3 at actually killing things until you're able to fire it every 1.1 seconds. You can't fire it that fast as a Master Pistoleer unless you have a gun that is faster than 1.0 speed.

I've been hearing all over about stopping shot takign 2 seconds. I'm a master Pistoleer with no other pistol mods i.e. no bh pistol. and I did a test with some friends. I took my 1.0 speed FWG5 and stopping shot spammed my friend and my other pal timed till incap. It took about 5 seconds for the incap (which was kinda nice) and I shot him 5 times. which I dont see how i could do with a stopping shot that takes 2?? seconds. I was jsut wondering if anyone could clear this up for me.

-Jini

don't have your friend time for you, turn on the combat chat window and turn on the time stamp option under the options menu. check the gap between shots now, you will have it all laid out for ya.

Thanks for the info.. Either way its not 2 seconds like i have heard that the minimum cap is... I Don't know who pulled that out of their butt.

-Jini

well, it is 2 seconds more often with an Average pistol, not a scout blaster that has a delay of 1.1 or 1.2, but try it with our stupid crapy DX2 with a delay of 2.5, then come back and tell me that the Pistoleer's best special, stopping shot, which is suppose to stop or incap your attacker's in one shot, along with the Pistoleer's Elite weapon, and tell me that your doing it in one second. If you can do that, I want to see the screen shot with the timestamp cause it's impossible, especially in 5 shots in 5 seconds with our DX2.

Eh. My last ditch (stopping shot 2, but same 5 second delay) kills stuff a lot faster than when I just use BS3. My gun is 1.0 with a mod, and 1.4 without. Even without, LD is still better.

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ArchmagiCaT wrote:
Eh. My last ditch (stopping shot 2, but same 5 second delay) kills stuff a lot faster than when I just use BS3. My gun is 1.0 with a mod, and 1.4 without. Even without, LD is still better.

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Right. Last Ditch has a 6.0 modifier instead of a 5.0 damage modifier, so it's a lot more powerful. But of course it's not a Pistoleer special, it's a Smuggler special.

Pretty much all of the good pistol specials are in Bounty Hunter or Smuggler.

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Philosopher1976 wrote:

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ArchmagiCaT wrote:
Eh. My last ditch (stopping shot 2, but same 5 second delay) kills stuff a lot faster than when I just use BS3. My gun is 1.0 with a mod, and 1.4 without. Even without, LD is still better.

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Right. Last Ditch has a 6.0 modifier instead of a 5.0 damage modifier, so it's a lot more powerful. But of course it's not a Pistoleer special, it's a Smuggler special.

Pretty much all of the good pistol specials are in Bounty Hunter or Smuggler.

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Yea, and it is stopping shot 2. It hits all random pools and is still faster than BS3, which focuses on health only. Unless that 1 modifier makes all the difference. Sorry I don't know the combat system as well as some do.

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ArchmagiCaT wrote:

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Philosopher1976 wrote:

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ArchmagiCaT wrote:
Eh. My last ditch (stopping shot 2, but same 5 second delay) kills stuff a lot faster than when I just use BS3. My gun is 1.0 with a mod, and 1.4 without. Even without, LD is still better.

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Right. Last Ditch has a 6.0 modifier instead of a 5.0 damage modifier, so it's a lot more powerful. But of course it's not a Pistoleer special, it's a Smuggler special.

Pretty much all of the good pistol specials are in Bounty Hunter or Smuggler.

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Yea, and it is stopping shot 2. It hits all random pools and is still faster than BS3, which focuses on health only. Unless that 1 modifier makes all the difference. Sorry I don't know the combat system as well as some do.

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Here's the comparison for you. You're a Master Pistoleer using a 1.0 speed pistol, based on your post.

First of all, you fire StoppingShot and LastDitch every 1.04 seconds with a 1.0 speed pistol -- that is extremely fast, needless to say.

Let's compare StoppingShot (5.0 damage modifier, random HAM) with BodyShot3, which is a 2.5 damage modifier Health-targetted attack. 5.0 / 1.04 seconds = 4.8 damage with StoppingShot. Since it's random HAM only 55% hits health, which means that it's the equivalent of 2.64 targeted. That's slightly better than BodyShot3, and it's because you're using a 1.0 speed pistol (which almost none of us are using) at Master Pistoleer. If your pistol was 1.1 speed instead, you'd be firing every 1.144 seconds and then BodyShot3 would be better (2.4 health versus 2.5 health).

But LastDitch, which is a Smuggler special, is a LOT better than BodyShot3 for you because it has a 6.0 damage modifier. 6.0 / 1.04 seconds= 5.77 damage with LastDitch. That's the equivalent of 3.17 Health Damage. LastDitch is always better than StoppingShot and is better than BodyShot3 even with a slower pistol.