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Thread: well i think combat needs to be equaled out....

LordKeg
Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:41 pm
#1

I think skills should be evened out a little i mean some skills are two strong. Say your a TKA master you don't need a doctor cause you can buff yourself and meditate to heal wounds. You can also Knockdown which really isn't all that far cause with that you have no chance to do anything like heal apply disease of poison also they have skills to make you dizzy too. Also there are two many im not trying to whine or anything but i beleive the tka skills should be looked over a little bit more and tryed to make it even so other professions can be of help and be useful. Plus people will probally say why don't you become one so you can see how good it is well im not quite fond of hand to hand or up close fighting i am more of a ranged fighter. But my profession isn't anywhere to a master tka and i've noticed that i am useless more or less and this is a profession i really want and i want to be of some us but compared to a tka BH Commando im nothing i can be taking down so easy. So i ask please take a look at redoing the combat skills so that other porfessions can be of use to the other and make them kinda even so people that like a skill can be able to hold there own against other strong professions and try to make it all off tastics of the player not all what skills are the strongest.





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Dark_Paradox
Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:37 pm
#2

Dude... have you seen what it takes to be a TKA? You'll be grinind into next week to just get novice. I say its worth it for all the work they have to do. Hell it took me a weeka nd a half to get unarmed four!
FallenLore
Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:49 pm
#3

Pistoleer alone I find isnt good enough. Pick up the Smugglers Dirty Fighting line or BH pistols. I get owned by Rogues and that eye shot all the time.



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Freylocke
Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:45 am
#4

you can master pistoleer easily in a week. NOOOBBBBBBEEEEEEEEEEEE
Zilrion
Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:02 am
#5

Dude... have you seen what it takes to be a TKA? You'll be grinind into next week to just get novice. I say its worth it for all the work they have to do. Hell it took me a weeka nd a half to get unarmed four!

Novice brawler -> Master Tka takes about 4days ^.^ well for me atleast



ingame name: Zilrion Hazzardous
EcadMistflier
Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:56 am
#6










LordKeg wrote:
I think skills should be evened out a little i mean some skills are two strong. Say your a TKA master you don't need a doctor cause you can buff yourself and meditate to heal wounds. You can also Knockdown which really isn't all that far cause with that you have no chance to do anything like heal apply disease of poison also they have skills to make you dizzy too. Also there are two many im not trying to whine or anything but i beleive the tka skills should be looked over a little bit more and tryed to make it even so other professions can be of help and be useful. Plus people will probally say why don't you become one so you can see how good it is well im not quite fond of hand to hand or up close fighting i am more of a ranged fighter. But my profession isn't anywhere to a master tka and i've noticed that i am useless more or less and this is a profession i really want and i want to be of some us but compared to a tka BH Commando im nothing i can be taking down so easy. So i ask please take a look at redoing the combat skills so that other porfessions can be of use to the other and make them kinda even so people that like a skill can be able to hold there own against other strong professions and try to make it all off tastics of the player not all what skills are the strongest.





1.) STOP calling for nerfs. There is nothing wrong with Master Teras Kasi. It is not overpowered. If you have never played the class you have no idea what the down sides to the class are.




2.) Pistoleer needs to be fixed. This means the PISTOLEER class needs work. That doesn't mean nerf the hell outta what ever last owned you.




3.) I have mastered and PLAYED 10 skill sets and believe me NONE of them are good enough in allscenero to come out victorious in every situation much less be able to solo everything. You say you aren't "fond" of playing a meleecombat class but you have no problem crying for a nerf on a ELITE skill set that you have no experience in.

IF you have been owned by a Master TK welcome to 80% of the players on SWG. Learn to play your ranged class and stay outta the Master TK's range.




Ecad Mistflier
Force Wielder and Old School Disturber of the Peace
:: Ex Master Smuggler :: DEC 15 = BYE BYE SoE :: Ex SWG Jedi ::

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bikebro
Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:02 am
#7

I don't see the downside to tka yet. I'm currently working towards amaster tka/pistoleer, df and spices, and some medic template. I'm currently 3 boxes in on both pistoleer and tka so I by no means have any idea what the professions turn out to be. Getting to novice tka is alot more work then novice pistoleer but after hitting novice it all changes. I'm leveling tka so much faster then pistoleer right now. I do more dmg each hit and hit more often then i do with any of my pistols. I spent most of last week doing stormtropper faction missions with a master ch/fencer(who does way to much dmg). Using a pistol I would sometimes get 1k xp but most of the time it was around 600xp while if I was using my vibroknuckle 1k was the lowest amount of xp I would get.


I've also done better in the few PvP fights I've been in with tka then pistol. But it probably had alot to do with the armor my opponets were wearing. Though being able to shot at people from range has helped alot with kiters and actually making people not kite since they aren't expecting the change to tka once I get up to them.


Oh and I hate tka/rifle characters with a passion.






Laekon
Cairdeas
Wanderhome
EcadMistflier
Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:09 pm
#8







bikebro wrote:

I don't see the downside to tka yet. I'm currently working towards amaster tka/pistoleer, df and spices, and some medic template. I'm currently 3 boxes in on both pistoleer and tka so I by no means have any idea what the professions turn out to be. Getting to novice tka is alot more work then novice pistoleer but after hitting novice it all changes. I'm leveling tka so much faster then pistoleer right now. I do more dmg each hit and hit more often then i do with any of my pistols. I spent most of last week doing stormtropper faction missions with a master ch/fencer(who does way to much dmg). Using a pistol I would sometimes get 1k xp but most of the time it was around 600xp while if I was using my vibroknuckle 1k was the lowest amount of xp I would get.


I've also done better in the few PvP fights I've been in with tka then pistol. But it probably had alot to do with the armor my opponets were wearing. Though being able to shot at people from range has helped alot with kiters and actually making people not kite since they aren't expecting the change to tka once I get up to them.


Oh and I hate tka/rifle characters with a passion.










You are making your point as a combo combatant from the beginning. Try attacking a ranged opponet as a Teras Kasi artist ONLY. See what you think then.You have the ability to counter a kiting combatant with your own ranged attack via pistol. Teras Kasi has no counter to ranged attack. None. That is the weakness of Teras Kasi. Even at Master.


I am Master Teras Kasi and now picking up Master Pistoleer/Master Smugglar to provide myself the same kind of combo attack/ defences that you are speaking of. With a ranged and melee mastery I will have melee and ranged mitigation 3, and greater dodge abitity.


SWG combat is all about the dabbling baby.




Ecad Mistflier
Force Wielder and Old School Disturber of the Peace
:: Ex Master Smuggler :: DEC 15 = BYE BYE SoE :: Ex SWG Jedi ::

"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life."
Frank Zappa
BeWary
Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:20 pm
#9

TKA is not that hard to master, just the first few boxes are a pain, the power curve is steep.

I am currently a master TKA ,amongst other things, and I believe them to be overpowered, even with the lack of damage types and ham costs.

Of course Pistoleer was my first combat mastery so everything seems overpowered after that.

No nerf is a good nerf. We need to be built up, not tear anyone else down.



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TitoLandrum
Tue Feb 03, 2004 2:08 pm
#10

These posts are part of the reason why combat is so f'd up. Nerf this, nerf that b/c they kill me. Learn what works best, work out some tactics. You talk about TKA's being overpowered b/c they can heal themselves and they can buff themselves. First, if you are fighting a TKA and he stops to meditate, if you don't kill him, you deserve to lose. Also, TKA's can't heal themselves by 500 points such as with a stim B, it's a gradual healing process. Meditation does absolutely no good when in the middle of a fight. As far as buffs go, you get apprx 450 to health, action, and mind...those are a far cry from the 2K+ buffs that docs hand out. Also, against a pure TKA, all you have to do is stay out of their range, which is roughly 10-17m depending on lag. If you are using a RB, you should be 50-64m from your target to take advantage of your range mods. It sounds like you just need to practice up on some skills and find some good tactics...plus if you are only a gunfighter, you should have a ton of skill points left over...pick up something else...hell maybe even a melee class. That's what I did...i was first a master smuggler and CH, and I moved to smuggler, gunfighter and eventually TKA. I find that I do dish out more dmg as a TKA, but I also take a beating being up close. Alot of this game is tactics...and if you want to cry nerf, do so on the temploiters, not someone who chooses to master a few professions.





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Higginsis
Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:23 am
#11

As said before the easiest way to defeat and tka of any level is to run, run your ass off, and do stop running till the mofo is down.

Bur if he is buffed just stop and let him kill you, your just delaying the envitable by running.



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