Pistoleer Archive

OK I have been seeing alot of people saying the pistoleer is weaker with a pistol then a bounty hunter.

I am here to tell you this isnt true at all. I looked at some of the numbers and here are the results.

Master Pistoleer

Pistol speed 64

Accuracy 95

Aiming: 46

Ranged Defense 23

Dodge 30

Accuracy while moving20

alertness 10

Stun defense 20

Blind Defense 20

dizzy defense 20

knockdown defense 30

posture change defense 20

The point of these numbers is to show that the pistoleer is far superior with a pistol then a bounty hunter.

We have alot more defensive modifiers such as stun,dizzy,posture change,blind, and knockdown.

plus a +10 to alertness. also +30 to dodge and +23 to ranged defense, and point blank pistol melee defense 1 & 2 .

This is a hugeamount ofdefensive skills a bounty hunter cant even touch these.

Offensivly a Master pistoleer has 24 more speed then a bounty hunter and 15 more accuracy.

We have +46 to aiming also +30 to accuracy while moving.

So in all catagories we have better numbers then a bounty hunter and far superior defensive skills.

Now lets look at training points, So you have made master Pistoleer that leaves you with a 144 points left over to put into other skills. Thats a whole other elite or hybrid class you can add plus skills from some of the basic classes like explore 4

Now with the bounty hunter you have 33 points left over after reaching master Bounty hunter. That isnt much you might get a few lower pistoleer skills but not many or medic skills or ranger skills againthere really isnt much you can do with 33 points.

So as you can see a pistoleer ismuch better at pistol combat then a bounty hunter and still leave you room to personalize your character rather then being stuck Bounty hunter and only bounty hunter.

P.S. this was a quick study of the numbers if there are any mistakes please feel free to correct me.

Im a BH/Pistoleer and its easy to see that a BH's pistols skills arent better. Im probably going to master pistoleer and the pistol line of BH though with both of them you can be very strong.

I'm not sure where your getting your information but some of it is incorrect. A BH gets massive speed bonuses in the pistol line. My BH friend is well over 80 speed but she does have a couple pistoleer skills too. You also did not mention that BHs have eye shot. Most pvp characters have low mind and eye shot has a good chance to one shot you, seen her do it several times. On mobs eye shot can exceed 1k damage easy with a scatter pistol.

I have stopping shot and though it does over 1k damage at times as well, its a random ham hit so its not NEAR as effective.

Trust me, a decently skilled BH will kill a pistoleer 80% of the time.

We will just have to see wont we. Yes a BH has pistol speed bonuses I didnt put down the BH numbers but I can tell you Pistoleer has better speed then the BH. And as far as eye shot goes well being a smuggler and a pistoleer I just take truster head before the fight and i have an extra 600 mind points. It isnt that a BH is a bad combatant. Its just they are not the best pistol specialist.

The biggest advantage a pistoleer has over a BH is the 158 left over points to spend after mastering pistol. If you place those in the right skills you can have 105 defense versus knockdowns and over 100 versus posture changes and great defense against dizzy with around 60 each mellee/ranged defense.

You would actually have better chances of beating a bounty hunter than even another bounty hunter would have because they don't have the defense thier own carbineknockdown/dizzy so whoever hits that first will probly win. Witha good pkpistoleerbuild you'll resist the knockdown almost every time.

Most BHs take some pistoleer skills aswell, for example i took special ability1 and stances and grips4

gave me the most important resists, knockdown, i have 110accuracy and 91 speed, i have yet to loose a fight when i attack first

Wow, talk about a ton of miss-information. A Master pistoleer having more speed or acurracy then a Mater BH? That's wrong.

You said you'll have 64 speed and 90 accurracy at master Pistol?

I'm a BH and not master yet... But I have +140 Pistol Accurracy and +107 speed. So ya that's wrong there. BH will shoot faster and better then a pistoleer.

You are correct about the defenses though. BH is all about speed and damage. All the other classes get a ton of defense skills.

Eye shot is just plain death in PvP. I always kill everyone in 2 hits with that. Mind you, two hits for me is about 0.5 seconds.

Torso shot is also a killer. It does the same damage as body shot 3, but also puts a DoT onto the player that NO-ONE can cure. There's only two ways to get rid of it. 1st I'm not saying, the 2nd is to let it wear off normally. Now each time the fire burns, you take health wounds. I've fought people in duels and they walked out with 500 (yes..five hundred) health wounds. Sometimes they take 100-200.. But mostly it's 250-400ish. Without a medic close by, that can kill you fast. I had a few fights in theed where it was just me and another guy vs 10 other people. And we won in the end cause I would take out about 3 people before dieing (10 on 1-2 is hard). But they would all be on fire. In a few minutes none of them had any health left (literally. Some had full black health bars) and were forced to leave.

Now I'm not here to talk bad about the pistoleer class. I think it's a great class. Just want to clear some stuff up. A Master BH (nothing else), will win against a Master Pistoleer (nothing else).

If you add in stuff like CH skills, medics skills or anything else, that invailds your agruement. This post was just about a Pistoleer vs a BH.

Actually, I've never lost to a BH, because I use something that is not on any skill tree, my brain. If I see a solo BH of the opposite faction dragging along his little Pikachu / Droid army out on some bounty mission, I simply bring ask a few memebers of my squad (you do run around with 10 to 15 people always like I do right?) to divert over this way and help me out. 10 to 15 vs 1 makes for avery short fight.

Why fight fair? This is a civil war after all, and bragging rights go to the victor, and cries of unfair fall on deaf (or rather in this case dead) ears.

Xarche
Squad Leader for the Imperial PeaceKeepers 'Lucky Seven' unit
"I come in peace, you leave in pieces."

im Smuggler

I need to choose pistoleer or Bh

Any suggestion ?