Pistoleer Archive
Thread: accuracy while moving, pistol vs carbine vs rifle
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chopper49
Tue May 04, 2004 10:47 am
#1
Why is our accuracy while moving, the same as the carbineer +30 and a rifleman is a +10, all at master level. If anyone has ever tried to shoot a rifle while moving, it is impossible to aim, thereforea master should have a moving accuracy of -50. The carbine is a little easier to aim while moving but still difficult, accuracy should be -10.
Pistol is much smaller weapon and much easier to aim on the move, keep it at +30.
Moving and shooting should be a strong point for pistoleers, but currently we share the skill with carbines and they do a lot more damage.
Niklesnitz
Tue May 04, 2004 10:59 am
#2
This is just 1 of the 1000 reasons they are working on a combat revamp.
I don't know what they thought or what they were smoking or sniffing....but they really messed the combatprofessions up from day 1.
I remember when I first started playing and I had my cdef rifle. Running and gunning down womp rats with it, holding it with one hand. Never touched a rifle again.
Kevie
Tue May 04, 2004 11:43 am
#3
Niklesnitz wrote:
I remember when I first started playing and I had my cdef rifle. Running and gunning down womp rats with it, holding it with one hand. Never touched a rifle again.
/sigh
those were the days /tear
Greatjon
Tue May 04, 2004 2:43 pm
#4
Niklesnitz wrote:
Running and gunning down womp rats with it, holding it with one hand.
is there any other way to hold a rifle? if there is i dont want to know about it 
ViithSamoor
Tue May 04, 2004 7:37 pm
#5
Hehe... all joking aside though, i remember seeing that and saying, "if that really was a rifle, it'd either rip your shoulder out of your socket or you'd just drop it if you tried to fire it like that.
Greatjon wrote:
Niklesnitz wrote:
Running and gunning down womp rats with it, holding it with one hand.
is there any other way to hold a rifle? if there is i dont want to know about it
LordMaxx
Wed May 05, 2004 5:47 am
#6
Actually their accuracy is probably still negative...notice while moving your target modifiers go down...the +10 Master riflemen get just offsets that penalty somewhat...they are still taking a hit trying to move and shoot at the same time.
Niklesnitz
Wed May 05, 2004 7:04 am
#7
I always see negative 50 when moving. I could be right next to the mob and still get -50. I don't know if having skill tapes with accuracy while moving would change that number or not.
Manbush
Wed May 05, 2004 12:25 pm
#8
If it is a laser rifle it would have about the same recoil as your average torch.
laser = condensedlight
light = weightless
weightless = no inertia
no inertia = no recoil
Bongo
Master Pistoleer/Master Armorsmith
Valcyn
handleorsomething
Fri May 07, 2004 9:24 am
#9
Lol this point about weightless light made me laugh although it is logical--howeverphotons are not massless and their miniscule weight could cause recoiling for all we know since we don't know how the guns propel them. An interesting point, I'd love to hear them explain that one!
BZebub
Fri May 07, 2004 3:03 pm
#10
handleorsomething wrote:
Lol this point about weightless light made me laugh although it is logical--howeverphotons are not massless and their miniscule weight could cause recoiling for all we know since we don't know how the guns propel them. An interesting point, I'd love to hear them explain that one!
it can be justified more than hearing explosions and laser blasts in space...
handleorsomething
Fri May 07, 2004 3:59 pm
#11
hehe I don't know..I think it is pretty obvious the rebel and imperial ships have equipment that receives radio waves from the explosions and converts them into sounds, easily explained 
NasherUK
Fri May 07, 2004 5:42 pm
#12
Because -50 accuracy while moving while being a good idea, would make riflemen un-uber and we cant have that can we 
Easy-Exanip
Sat May 08, 2004 9:14 am
#13
LordMaxx wrote:
Actually their accuracy is probably still negative...notice while moving your target modifiers go down...the +10 Master riflemen get just offsets that penalty somewhat...they are still taking a hit trying to move and shoot at the same time.
Ok pistol munkeys, this why riflemen kick your ass...
You as a master pistoleer have maybe 7-15 ranged defense. Lets look at a rifleman's ranged defense +87. Lets look at a master riflemans's accuracy +160, At pointblank they have typical ranged modifiers of -70, off the t-21. So at pointblank they have like +90 to hit. Even at pointblank range they are going to shoot and hit more than you can shoot and hit them, at any range. The moving and shooting mods are broke, it all boils down to that ranged defense.
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