Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Fast Blast? and is mbh worth it for carb or pistol
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CountJazzBossk
Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:54 am
#1
Yea i was wondering how much dmg fast blast does compared to ditch for pistols and if i went mbh im wondering if id have more fun pvp doing carbineer or pistoleer. I would also like to know dmg for spray shot ive heard people say mbh is good but i just want some advice from you guys and your experiences
Rockhurst
Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:40 am
#2
Fast Blast is a pretty useless special when it comes down to it. I think it was designed to be non-dodge-able, but I've never tested it to see if it's true. Fastblast does do damage to all HAM bars, which is nice but you'll end up killing things faster by just focusing on one area. As for MBH, I'd definitely recommend it. If you're going Pistoleer, you must also do at least the BH pistols line to max your speed and have great accuracy. I very much enjoy MBH/M. Pistoleer...but part of that is that I've never enjoyed using carbines or rifles...just personal preference.
CountJazzBossk wrote:
Yea i was wondering how much dmg fast blast does compared to ditch for pistols and if i went mbh im wondering if id have more fun pvp doing carbineer or pistoleer. I would also like to know dmg for spray shot ive heard people say mbh is good but i just want some advice from you guys and your experiences
Indyguy162
Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:44 pm
#4
Spray shot is not meant to be a high damaging attack, it has a chance to dizzy/stun/blind a target, and I find it very useful considering it is the only dizzy move in the pistols/carbines tree. I dont even use carbines for damage, just to apply state and kd, then switch to my pistol.
CountJazzBossk wrote:
well how much does carbines spray shot do vs fast blast?
DarthNkari
Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:58 pm
#5
As far as PvE, I think any bh and/or carb and/or pistol combo will be just fine really (with or without mastery). There are plenty of good specials toget you by in PvE. (oh by the way pistols have armor pierce 1 so we cant really affect alot of high end mobs, but carb can, but i dont care i still use pistols only)
As far as PvP...
I think MBH is cool, but not worth it in my opinion. May as well only take BH pistol and master pistol or BH carb and master carb. The BH master box doesnt give you anything that helps when using pistol, and im pretty sure nothing for carb either. Therefore, why knowingly spend points on the entire LLC line and the investigation line since the master box doesnt give you anything anyways? Maybe 10 more accuracy but since you'll master pistol or carb, the 10 extra isnt worth like 40 skill points. And the ranged mit 3 will be gained from the other profession anyways.
I like BH 0040, master pistoleer, and:
either some fencer for defense and mitigation, or smuggler for FD, last ditch, and low blow.
Muawijhe
Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:55 am
#6
I tested out the modifier for FastBlast some time ago. It's a 4 x damage special and the damage is split evenly on all HAMs.
There are some uses for FastBlast though. It's good for probing armor for Stun weaknesses with your Geo. Since you hit all pools with one shot, it's pretty easy to quickly find if there are any unprotected areas.
I'm not sure about this, but I've heard that specials that hit multiple pools counts as more than one hit on your target. If that's the case, then FastBlast should count as 3 hits on your target. That's good if your target has eaten synthsteak. Then you should be able to remove the damage reduction 3 times faster than with ordinary specials.
The final use I could think of is if your target has very low Action left, then you could spam FastBlast to be sure to hit action every time, although you wouldn't do much damage (unless your target isn't wearing stun boots and/or leggings).
There are some uses for FastBlast though. It's good for probing armor for Stun weaknesses with your Geo. Since you hit all pools with one shot, it's pretty easy to quickly find if there are any unprotected areas.
I'm not sure about this, but I've heard that specials that hit multiple pools counts as more than one hit on your target. If that's the case, then FastBlast should count as 3 hits on your target. That's good if your target has eaten synthsteak. Then you should be able to remove the damage reduction 3 times faster than with ordinary specials.
The final use I could think of is if your target has very low Action left, then you could spam FastBlast to be sure to hit action every time, although you wouldn't do much damage (unless your target isn't wearing stun boots and/or leggings).
Doratos
Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:16 pm
#7
Not sure about synth steak wearing down faster with the fast blast, but i know that scatter shots/hits will wear down PSGs and those are pretty expensive, that can be very annoying hehe. I never thought of using a scatter hit to probe for weaknesses....thats a good idea
Djena
Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:06 am
#8
MBH in my opinion is definitely worth getting:
Sprayshot for carbines has the second (or third) highest damage mod of any carbine special and can land stun/dizzy/blind in one go, I use it all the time in PvP and PvE, it is lethal. I've beaten armored rifleman with a combo of scattershot to get rid of his synth, scattershot for damage and states and underhandshot/suppresionfire to get them on the floor.
Fastblast is not as useful as a killing special but because it hits multiple locations it is great in PvP to eat through synthsteak, those locations count as seperate hits on the synthsteak. I noticed with scattershot from carbines that it hit me on 3-5 seperate locations and my synth was gone in no time, fastblast is a special of this type too, not a killer but definitely worth to debuff your opponent.
Now I'm going to try pistoleer to see how it holds up, does anyone have any tips on that?
CountJazzBossk
Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:50 pm
#9
torso shot with ditch shot hruts like mad im pistoleer/bh pistol 4/smug 0040 ditch is a 5x dmg mod its amazing so i suggest that as well and it gives u a ranged warcry,lowblow, and fd for pve
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