Pistoleer Archive
Thread: Melee Defense Bugged? Say it isnt so!
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BWVictorious
Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:47 am
#1
So i logged yesterday, find friend and was talking to him.
He said Melee Defense didnt KD anymore.
Called him a liar, dueled him...
Didnt work... thats ok, he is a master Pistoleer....
Tried again... didnt work....
...
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Can someone please call me stupid and let me know that Pistol Whiping is still effective.
Please... im afraid.... do not take away my KnockDown, its my favorite move ... hell its the only decent pistoleer move.
BadgerSmaker
Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:03 am
#2
I was in the DWB for an hour or so last night after the patch, still works on NPC's fine. Must still work on players.
Is he using PMD1 or PMD2? Because PMD2 is broken.
PMD1 is the knockdown.
BWVictorious
Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:09 am
#3
I was using PMD1.... must have been his good luck against my bad luck...
oh welll... if it works I can breath again...
thanks!
for a dark moment I thought they had finnaly buried the Noble Pistoleer.
BadgerSmaker
Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:14 am
#4
Even if they did nerf it, it wouldn't bury the Pistoleer. Pure Pistoleers have achieved greatness despite the lack of working specials. 
Did you not get a "You failed to knockdown your target" message?
BWVictorious
Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:43 am
#5
no... there was no you failed to knock down your target message
thats why i was worried about a stealth nerf or bug.
true... I dont need the KD anymore to defeat my enemies, Torso Shot and Health Shot 2 work pretty well. I havent tried fan shot and stopping shot yet.
But the truth is, Pistoleer combines health focused dmg with a lot of speed. We still need something to penetrate heavy armor. I can take on most targets with light or no armor, but anything wearing medium is a serious problem and if they are wearing heavy (with the usual resists associated to this armor)
then:
foge'bou't
BadgerSmaker
Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:58 am
#6
Thats why I have 4/0/0/4 CM, helps with the heavy armoured Mobs, and Novice Brawler for Intimidate, to let you soak up the damage while you wear them down.
Also, PMD1 then warcry is very funny. Slap a Gorax in the ankle with the butt of your DE-10 then scream at him and he's too scared to get up. 
Takes a long time and costs quite a few credits in armour and chef buffs but the satisfaction of taking down some of the hardest mobs in the game with one of the most reportedly broken professions makes it all worth it.
Uthyr
Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:25 am
#7
I use PMD1 all the time, and haven't noticed any change in the way it used to work. In fact, last night, I went to an opposing-faction-controlled city and started killing every faction NPC in sight. The way I killed most of them was by running up to them (I was able to approach most of them before they aggro'd me), hitting them with a PMD1, and then finishing them off with Torso Shot or Stopping Shot from my DE-10 while they were down. I got most of them without them ever firing a single shot at me. I'dguess the PMD landed about 85-90% of the time, at least on these NPC's. They land less often on higher-end mobs, but they do still land. I really love that special. I just wish PMD2 worked as well.
SpinningCloud
Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:26 pm
#8
Well that explains why I don't KD anymore...I think I replaced PMD1 icon with PMD2...so 2 is truely broken?
PercyBlackdragon
Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:42 pm
#10
Uthyr wrote:
Yeah, PMD2 is definitely broken.
IT IS??
When did this happen?
Why was it never disscussed?
It's not in any other posts about our working/nonworking specials, WTH. 
Omdip
Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:17 pm
#12
Ya,PMD 2has been broken since the release of the game in the summer of 03'.
PMD1 has had a long history. It started off as basically unlimited KD's. You could spam it and you'd just keep KD'ing , you could even stack KD's to some extent. Then they completely nerfed it, and got rid of the KD altogether, I believe. Soon after that nerf, they put the PMD1 KD back in, but you can't use it repeatedly on people anymore. That's how it still is.
Norle
Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:28 pm
#13
Omdip wrote:Ya, PMD 2 has been broken since the release of the game in the summer of 03'.PMD1 has had a long history. It started off as basically unlimited KD's. You could spam it and you'd just keep KD'ing , you could even stack KD's to some extent. Then they completely nerfed it, and got rid of the KD altogether, I believe. Soon after that nerf, they put the PMD1 KD back in, but you can't use it repeatedly on people anymore. That's how it still is.
But does it actually say anywhere that it's SUPPOSED to KD? I don't think so...
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