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Thread: Stopping shot issue

NaKitNa
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:26 pm
#1

I don't know what exactly his breakdown was, but a fellow that had a powerhammer and I dueled twice. During that exchange, I tried three times to hit him with Stopping Shot. None of them landed. Perhaps this is a fluke, but usually in pvp I have never had an issue of getting it to stick. anyone have any thoughts on this? Oh and the hits did land (as in they didnt miss).

Kodpese
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:37 am
#2

It happens to me sometimes in PvE - usually in high lag situations. The target will take damamge from the stopping shot but the state won't land.


Mind you, I don't know what the actual chance of it sticking is - I'm sure it's not 100% so it's perfectly possible (if improbable) that it would fail to stick 3 times.






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BadgerSmaker
Fri Jul 01, 2005 2:21 am
#3

I've never experienced it not sticking if the target takes damage from, ie it doesn't miss.


Did you miss or did the root not stick?


If I really want to stick stopping shot then I'd drink some pyro for +200 accuracy then hit stopping shot. Works very well on Ancients.





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Kodpese
Fri Jul 01, 2005 2:44 am
#4

With me, once in every 50 or so stopping shots, the shot will land but the state won't - usually when I really need it to stick


I've checked the combat log to make sure the shot did land and according to that it did.


But like I say, doesn't happen very often and only at the worst possible moment






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HyprHypo
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:20 am
#5

I think its borked. It hits everytime for me but the state doesnt land. WTH did soe break now?



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NaKitNa
Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:57 am
#6

As stated in the original post... the shots did land (as in they didn't miss), I also noticed he was buffed to the gills... is there a root resistance now?

Message Edited by NaKitNa on 07-01-2005 07:58 AM

BadgerSmaker
Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:59 am
#7






NaKitNa wrote:
As stated in the original post... the shots did land (as in they didn't miss), I also noticed he was buffed to the gills... is there a root resistance now?

Message Edited by NaKitNa on 07-01-2005 07:58 AM





There shouldn't be, I will have to test this. Thanks for the info.


If anyone else has experienced this issue please post with your info.





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HardwiredXMan
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:31 am
#8

Pre-CU, it was stated by the devs that all states have a 5% chance not to stick no matter how high or low the targets defenses were. I don't see any reason why that would change in CU. So I would assume that this is still the case. All I know is that as a jedi, I sometimes have armor break, dizzy and KD not stick even though the attack hits and does damage. It is extremely rare that I've noticed, but it does happen. In fact I had it happen twice early this morning. Also, I've had stopping shot and a few smuggler specials hit and do damage but the states not stick.


There certainly is no reason why anyone should think any states should stick 100% of the time on a successful hit. It's my belief that until the devs tell us they have changed the percentage of a state sticking, I will continue to go by the understanding that they all have a 5% chance of missing. As for it happening 3 times in a row....well, it's a roll of the die. In playing craps, you can land on the same number 3 or more times in a row, but that doesn't mean the chance of hitting that number is any higher or less than normal. Just look at it as if you've rolled within that 5% range 3 times in a row....yeah, extremely unlucky
Tork1
Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:50 am
#9


i rarly miss with stopping shot, pvp or pve





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Kodpese
Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:03 am
#10

Well with double xp week I got drawn back into the FS grind and I must say that most specials, including stopping shot, do seem to have around a 10% chance of not sticking.


I especially noticed this with stopping shot as when it hit it rarely, if ever, failed to land the state. Over the weekend however, there were times when it was failing to stick up to 50%. I guess I could just have been extremely unlucky but it seems unlikely.


Times when it seemed most reluctant to stick were in high lag situations - combat spam would register the hit but the targets health would not drop until 2 or 3 seconds after the spam and the state would never apply (I also noticed with Advanced Critical sometimes combat spam would register the hit but the targets health would not drop, then some 10 seconds later targets health would drop by a huge amount).


Anyway, like I was saying - it would seem from about 20 hours worth of grinding that root from stopping shot fails to stick around 10% of the time on average.






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