Pistoleer Archive
Thread: No fix for you! NERF!
So with all the reports and examples and test data we have given the devs over the last few MONTHS to give the devs the direction they need to go,we get our only good pistol nerfed and some increase in BS defenses that wont matter much at all (as proved by studies from both Jaegen and Philosopher). Didnt we ask them to leave our FWGs alone? Didnt we tell them to forget about the BS defenses andFIX OUR SPECIALS? If there working on a nerf and these BS defenses then they arent working on fixing our specials.
Its unbelievable that there are no better TARGETED pool attacks in the entire pistoleer profession than the BS2 available to a marksman with only 24 skill points!
If we get screwed on our top five issues, Im going **edit**. Why shouldn't I? Whats to keep me here with Pistoleer? My best pistol is now nerfed away to a tinker toy (try using that new nerfed FWG against a Crystal Hunter!) especialy considering the devsare toughning up the creatures. Whipping out 2-3 kick a s s creatures is starting to sound appealing. Or there is, unfortunately, the option of going through the BH pistol tree. Ive tried so hard not to do that, trying to have faith that our profession will get redeemed, but this patch is a step in the wrong direction.
/sigh
-Mourf
vGeist wrote:
but now we get item decay on death and the ability to ride kaduu. i don't see why you're not thrilled.
That about sums it up.
Mourfeous wrote:
So with all the reports and examples and test data we have given the devs over the last few MONTHS to give the devs the direction they need to go,we get our only good pistol nerfed and some increase in BS defenses that wont matter much at all (as proved by studies from both Jaegen and Philosopher). Didnt we ask them to leave our FWGs alone? Didnt we tell them to forget about the BS defenses andFIX OUR SPECIALS? If there working on a nerf and these BS defenses then they arent working on fixing our specials.
Its unbelievable that there are no better TARGETED pool attacks in the entire pistoleer profession than the BS2 available to a marksman with only 24 skill points!
If we get screwed on our top five issues, Im going **edit**. Why shouldn't I? Whats to keep me here with Pistoleer? My best pistol is now nerfed away to a tinker toy (try using that new nerfed FWG against a Crystal Hunter!) especialy considering the devsare toughning up the creatures. Whipping out 2-3 kick a s s creatures is starting to sound appealing. Or there is, unfortunately, the option of going through the BH pistol tree. Ive tried so hard not to do that, trying to have faith that our profession will get redeemed, but this patch is a step in the wrong direction.
/sigh
-Mourf
How can you complain that the best targeted shot for pistoleer is available after only 24 skill points,yet in the same breath, complainthat the FWG5 is no longer the most powerful gun? IT'S A MARKSMAN WEAPON AVAILABLE AFTER ONLY 29 SKILL POINTS.
What is wrong with you people? Don't you realize there are other professions that have bugs OTHER THAN PISTOLEER? IE chef? Until now, Chef was completely worthless! I think fixing buffs has WAY more priority than a "more powerful targeted health shot than BS2". You can't expect developers to fix everything at once. That's what patches are for.
Your definition of nerf is apparently "anything that impedes my ability to solo".Just because you can't solo an FS mob doesn't mean you can no longer play the game (although sometimes, after hearing this drivel, I wish it did). There is more to life than soloing a freaking FS mob. Do you know what a group is? Have you ever tried playing with OTHER people? If "whipping out a bad-a s s creature" is starting to sound more appealing, THEN GROUP WITH A CH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. The devs are "toughening up the creatures" to encourage people to group TOGETHER . Find a CH, andwith a little healing ability, and you'll do fine. Orsell resourcesand buy a holocron if you have too much pride to group.
You people love to whine about NERF and how Sony hates you. Our "top five issues" are NOT at the top of the developer's priority list, especially at the expense of everything else in the game. Why? Because pistoleer remains one of the most powerful and versatile combat classes in the game.If you disagree thenstart a BH andmigrate your whining to their forums.
Pistoleercan only get MORE powerful as they begin fixing our specials. Rather than have a stupid multi-target pistol shot, I am very happy to see that melee classes can "properly tank" now. I am ecstatic to see chef buffs working. These fixes will increase my effectiveness way more than a disarm shot ever could.
How can this patch be "a step in the wrong direction?" You sound like the god-awful BH correspondant now!
STOPTHE WHINING PLEASE!
Dhax
DrDhaxseems to be lost. Last time I checked this was the Pistoleer forums, and was related to Pistoleer issues, not chef, not driod engineer, not any melee classes,where are we again?
Before you open your mouth, I am not telling the Devs to concern only for us. BUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS TOTALLYINCOMPITENT. The game has been out for half a year and what now? It's NOW getting attention?
You want to hear Chefs cry? Go to the Chef forum.
You want to hearDE cry? Go to the DE forum.
You want to hear Pistoleers cry? You come here.
I just don't understand why people think we shouldn't have concern for Pistoleer issues in the Pistoleer FORUM.
Want to know what I think?
Chefs should be fixed. DE should be fixed. BH should be fixed. Pikeman should be fixed. Fencer should be fixed. Carbineer should be fixed. Rifeman should be fixed, and Pistoleer should be fixed
There, are you happy now?
MagusZDark wrote:
DrDhaxseems to be lost. Last time I checked this was the Pistoleer forums, and was related to Pistoleer issues, not chef, not driod engineer, not any melee classes,where are we again?
Before you open your mouth, I am not telling the Devs to concern only for us. BUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS TOTALLYINCOMPITENT. The game has been out for half a year and what now? It's NOW getting attention?
You want to hear Chefs cry? Go to the Chef forum.
You want to hearDE cry? Go to the DE forum.
You want to hear Pistoleers cry? You come here.
I just don't understand why people think we shouldn't have concern for Pistoleer issues in the Pistoleer FORUM.
Want to know what I think?
Chefs should be fixed. DE should be fixed. BH should be fixed. Pikeman should be fixed. Fencer should be fixed. Carbineer should be fixed. Rifeman should be fixed, and Pistoleer should be fixed
There, are you happy now?
So you are saying that fixes to other key professions have no effect on pistoleer? You don't think this is a boon to pistoleers? You don't think this affects our class in ANY WAY?Apparently not, since according to you I'm in the wrong forum.
And where did I mention droid engineers?
Reread the post and respond with some substance, please.
I don't have a problem with pistoleers whining.
I have a problem with pistoleers whining that this was a horrible patch, that its a step back,and theres no reason to be a pistoleer. THAT is what does not belong in the forum, because that is total BS.
Fixes to the professions in this patch improves our combat effectiveness. It is clear to everyone that there are mountains of bugs, and that there is priority of what gets fixed. These fixes were included in the patch, because they improve combat for everyone, not just one class. Any thought on your part before starting your rant, and you would have realized this. But I forgot, we can't discuss how improvements in other professions affect pistoleer.
If you have been following the other forums, the developers specifically enumerated the classes which would receive special attention first. Pistoleer is not one of them. Therefore you cannot expect to have our broken specials fixed in this patch. Adding bonuses to our melee and other defenses was done because it only took a couple of keystrokes in a data file, and was included because it didn't require intensive testing and developer time.
>>So you are saying that fixes to other key professions have no effect on pistoleer? You don't think this is a boon to pistoleers? You don't think this affects our class in ANY WAY?Apparently not, since according to you I'm in the wrong forum.
You're saying that other professions are in dire need for care than the Pistoleer, I tend to agree, but this is not the place to vent.
>>And where did I mention droid engineers?
>>Reread the post and respond with some substance, please.
You didn't say anything about DEs, that's true, but it was more for an "example" where to talk about other professions.
>>I don't have a problem with pistoleers whining.
>>I have a problem with pistoleers whining that this was a horrible patch, that its a step back,and theres no reason to be a pistoleer. THAT is what does not belong in the forum, because that is total BS.
What? You have no problem with Pistoleer's whining yet you can't stand Pistoleer's....whining about a patch? Wouldn't that be put in the same category as whining itself?
I don't see any Pistoleers stating this is a step back for Pistoleers, all I see is people complaining why they can't get their specials fixed. But this patch certainly isn't a step forward nor a step backwards.
Please explain how improvments on other professions benefits/affects us? I'm seriously at a lost here. (or I just don't get it)
And just because we weren't mentioned as the top 5 issues doesn't mean we can't rant on and on.
Oh, and I wasn't expecting our specials to work from this patch.
( not to say we are the most broken, but this is the closest to love we've seen, ever)This patch was niether a step forward or back for pistoleers, the only parts of this patch that affect us are the general combat fixes and the defense mods "tweak". I had a PvP battle where I dodged %32 of the attacks, is this a fluke? only time will tell as I can't get anyone off their new kaduu to shoot at me with a weak gun for 15 minutes
At least they didn't mess with wip this time, a first for that.
Iago, if you read this, send me a /tell next time you got some time on your hands and we are both on, I'd like to run some tests. Can we dodge while mounted? Does who's targeted affect the dodge rate? Does running affect dodge rate? You get the picture.
Anyone else on Valcyn is more than welcome to shoot at me for testing purposes, or for any other reason