Pistoleer Archive

First I will give a list of all the pistols in my inventory (I am 0/1/0/1 Pistoleer)

WSmith

Well I hate to say it but this post leave a little to be desired.

Apologies for anyone who read my previous post (attempt at least), I had a posting error followed by being kicked out of SWG Forums. So I will repost complete this time

First I will give a list of all the pistols in my inventory (I am 0/1/0/1 Pistoleer)

Pistol MinMaxSpeedDPS (Against same AR)
DX2 (Sliced)811282.052.25
FWG5 (Sliced)511971.677.5
FWG5 (Unsliced)581992.064.25
Scout (Sliced)611221.370.4
Scout (Sliced)781501.960
All of above are without powerups

Now look at what I bought today for 200 credits
DH17 (Sliced)911411.672.5
No powerup
This gun has more minimum damage then any of my other pistols and does more DPS then all but one. Sure the DX2 has Acid/AP1 and the FWG5 is heat damage, but all those guns cost me far more then 200cr. I can't believe so much debate and time went into nerfing power handlers from the FWG5 schematic, post patch is clearly inferior to this DH17. The whole system needs a revamp, DX2 being number 1, FWG5 number 2, and on down the list.
The way I see it now (post patch pistol schematics), the DH17 is the best non BH pistol, followed by the Scout, FWG5 and then the DX2. Is it just me or does this not make sense in terms of balance. You can get Pistol II in about an hour of hunting the garbage just outside any city.

This chart should make the stats easier to read:
Pistol Min Max Speed DPS(Against same AR)
DX2 (Sliced)81 128 2.0 52.25
FWG5 (Sliced) 51 197 1.6 77.5
FWG5 (Unsliced) 58 199 2.0 64.25
Scout (Sliced) 61 122 1.3 70.4
Scout (Sliced) 78 150 1.960
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Followed By
DH17 (Sliced) 91 141 1.672.5

Good information, no argument. Recently I've become a big fan of SR Combat Pistols. and can't wait till the Republic Blaster can be used, some have already been able to use them successfully.

-Apathy

i dont mean to flame but surely you cant be serious. just because the guns in your invetory have certain stats does not reflect on the weapon as a whole.

my fwg-5's prior to nerf are 62- 210 1.7 (unsliced and no powerup) = dps 80

dx-2 101 - 156 2.4 (unsliced and no powerup) = dps 53.5 ( with all important ap 1)

scout blaster 76- 158 1.7 (unsliced and no powerup) = dps 68.8

all the above weapons have no loot components and are standard models.

i do agree that post nerf fwg-5's ,scatters and launchers made with non- loot components are underpowered.

Yeah, I hope those arent the best on your server.

DH17's have a higher min damage than a scout. The max damage is very close. But the Ham on them is much higher than a Scout.

You paid 200 credits. /shrug

Dh17's are nice but have u found out that u have to stop to use them? if u are running with that gun equipped and get hit my a mob that just aggroe'd u will stop and fire on him.... helps the mob catch up like a dodge would.

Without the AR1 and being just energy based.... makes the SR better in my book...

*Ahem*

The DH17 is a carbine. Also there is a varient, the DH17 snub-nose, or "short" DH17.

Thank you.

-- Ypi

There is also a DH17 pistol.

Damage is good on it, but I don't like the HAM costs.

uhmm.. I'm not sure I get your point?

How are you going to compare those to 300+ damage fwg's unsliced?

Don't know much about Scout pistols, but your dx2s and fwg5 much be changed. All my fwg5s are over 230 damage, with my main at 342 (sliced) My dx2 is sliced and does over 200 damage, i think its 212. Damage isnt always high, buts its consistant. No offense, but your pistol are terrible, and you need new ones ASAP. My advice, fwg5s are gone, so go buy a krayt version of it if you have the cash, if not, get a Republic blaster. Think of it as a hybrid of the fwg5 and dx2. But dont buy one, buy 5 at one time. Same thing with your dx2s, buy in loads. Then take it to a smuggler who you trust I hope, and hope one gets at least 29% damage slice. The dh17 is worthless and useless, trust us. If it was good, then you wouldn't see many people with an fwg5.

Um for the record I had my best fwg5 ever made just a few hours before patch. It was made with krayt tissue also. Sliced and with 33 max/16 min powerup it is 73 - 391 .7 that works out to 331 dps .

While true you cannot shoot faster than 1.0 if your pistol speed is not maxed it does lower the time delayof any special. Against a static lair with no npcs left alive I did 35k dam in 24 secs with 24 shots of fanshot. That works out to 1438 dam a shot which also happens to be actual dam a sec. For the record I only have 0043 in pistoleer with pistol speed modifier of 48.

I am not posting this to brag, because in truth I am afraid to use gun knowing well this may well be best I ever have made by far, but to show that yes change to fwg5 does not a huge difference to the rare high end guns.

For those saying this way overpowered and should have been removed I say you have not a clue. I have only one gun like this I have made my quest basically since start of game to get the possible gun ever. Up until the other night I had not even been close.

So I have one super gun if you play at all you know full well, even if I have extremely good luck at usuing repair kit, gun will not last more than a few hours of continueous game play.