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Thread: I think this is unfair

BBFAnobi
Sat Nov 29, 2003 9:35 am
#1

I strongly beleive that a Master pistoleer should have better everything than a pistol specialization 4 BH. I mean come on, we need 5 million pistol XP to master the pistoleer tree. a BH only need 1.2 million pistol xp to get pistol specialization 4. In the end, they come out with much better specials than us. a kick ass pistol, a faster pistol speed than us, and even better accuracy. I feal this is very infair beacuse it takes a long time to rack up 5 million xp compared to 1.2 million. I am not asking for the devs to nurf BH but give us some better specials that are wort sticking with the pistoleer tree. give us a KD shot and better speed. It is stupid seeing a BH with the same wepon, armor, and stats beat a master pistoleer.



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jinez
Sat Nov 29, 2003 10:02 am
#2

those stats are why a lotta people dabble in BH pistol and then continue with pistoleer with teir left over points



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Chaimera
Sat Nov 29, 2003 10:12 am
#3

Yeah, but a master pistoleer who dabbles in Bh ends up being way better than a master Bh who dabbles in pistoleer. Neither professions are great alone.


Look at it this way, a master Bh has 3 different weapons, +2 melee defense and +24 ranged defense. So if a master Bh dabbles in pistoleer (3/0/4/0) he would only gain defenses and dodge and these mods would only count if he was holding a pistol so that would mean that he would end up using a carbine or llc rarely, because they would render him very vulnerable. But a master gunfighter can dabble in Bh pistol and still have great defense and great offensive capabilities.

Randonb
Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:09 am
#4

As somebody wise once said:


I could see them having better specials.. or more speed.. or more accuracy.. or a better weapon.. but all four??






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Nadiel26
Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:42 am
#5

better specials? stopping and fan shots do more damage than torso shot and eye shot is only good PvP. best thing about torso shot is the DoT, other than that pistoleer specials do more damage. i think of BH more as good mods, besides, you spend so much skill points just to get BH, you should be completely gimped. as a pistoleer you have many more skill points to increase your pistol skills by way of BH or sm uggler, or you can go melee to get better defenses which BH DO NOT GET




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MUSoprano
Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:27 am
#6

My problem with the pistoleer specials is that they don't target any one pool. It's random. In my opinion, this alone makes eye shot a better special than what pistoleer has.





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Nadiel26
Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:47 am
#7

if only bodyshot 3 was good, there's your single pool attack




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gunner4life
Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:02 am
#8






Nadiel26 wrote:
if only bodyshot 3 was good, there's your single pool attack




even if body shot 3 was good i would still only use it in pve. the health bar is the hardest to deplete in pvp your best bet is mind (cause its unhealable) or action cause most combat professions use action for specials. atleast with fanshot and stopping there is a 45% chance of hitting action or mind.



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ZeroDog
Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:29 am
#9

The amount of xp needed is irrelevant.


You must consider the amount of skill points needed to master each proffession.


Master Pistoleers will have a huge variety of other proffessions to choose from to compliment their Pistol skills, because Master Pistoleer costs less in terms of skill points.


By the time a Bounty Hunter becomes Master, he/she has only a small handfull of skill points to spend complimenting their chosen proffession.



You shouldn't really compare the two, as they are very different.


Being a Master Pistoleer doesnot mean you will be the all powerfull in PvP.


And yes, i am going for Master Pistoleer, and have absolutely no BH skills whatsoever.



If you are getting completely obliterated by a BH, change your tactics and experiment with your specials.


If you stood outside a city AFK and blasted thugs to get most of your pistol xp, then you can't expect to win in PvP, because you have not learned how to use/ experimented with your specials.


Spamming one or two specials will not win a battle in PvP, unless your opponent has the tactical mindof a Chuba.



They are Bounty Hunters. Not pansys. They should have some unique kick arse specials.


Dont focus on their specials. Learn how to use your specials.


Swiftblue
Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:32 am
#10

Cute post, would be true cept for one minor detail... Our specials dont work.



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Black-Ice-Sinaju
Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:08 am
#11

WEll my comment to the whole thing is this.....Master Pistoleers should be the BEST with the Pistol. But go up against a MBH using a pistol and they are faster, and their scatter does more damage than our DX2.


Master Pistoleer is by definition a Master of the Pistol= No one better with the pistol.


MBH = expert pistol=not as good as Master, he has other options, i.e. LLC, Carbine, etc....





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deadnewbie
Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:17 am
#12

The scatter doesn't do more damage than a DX2 anymore.



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NoobForEver
Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:29 pm
#13

lets think about this then

becoming a Pistoleer
1. pickup marksman
2. go through the pistol tree in marksman
3. oop a little more pistol xp and your a pistoleer, start workin on your 5 million xp YAY
(158 skill points left)

becoming a bounty hunter
1. pickup marksman
2. go through the pistol tree in marksman
3. go through the carbine tree in marksman
4. go through the rifle tree in marksman
5. go through the ranged support tree in marksman
6. acquire enough apprentice points to become master marksman
7. pickup scout
8. go through the exploration tree in scout
9. go through the trapping tree in scout (kill me please)
10. go through the hunting tree in scout
11. go through the survival tree in scout (O fun sitting in a tent!!)
12. acquire more apprentice points to become master scout
13. yay I finally can get novice bounty hunter
14. work on whatever tree get you eye shot or whatever is causing the commotion
(76 skill points left after that one tree - not master)



ya your right - NERF THE BH's there to strong, they must do less damage than a pistoleer!!!! ok, you didnt say that, but it sure would be nice if all of our specials WORKED lol. But they do have to work to get their skills. I dont think its unfair.


ps. grats on becoming master, I'm still workin on it



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