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Thread: Hmmm... Max Damage and Power Ups?

Natures-Ranger
Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:38 am
#1

Hmmm...
Is it possible the +34% Damage Barrels only add 17% to damage? Or do weapons have Max Damage Cap's with PowerUps equipped as well?

The things is - I have a DE-10, I dont quite remember the Max Damage but think its 955 (without a Damage Power Up) if i use a +34% High ? Barrel it reaches 1150 max damage.. So i thought ill just check this out:

955x34/100=1279 .......So? Now that we see that its not at the correct (Max Damage it should be if you add +34% damage to the Pistol) might i have hit the Cap? That might be 1150 for DE-10's? Or is there something with the Power Up system thats new and i dont know about??

I just got back from "quitting" cause i didnt like the CU and now thought i would have to learn about it cause im out on a new adventure retired from my old Jedi Hunting lifestyle!

So does anyone have anything to say?

1150x17/100=195 (-1150=955)




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Ackehece
Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:39 am
#2

in the rifleman threads we are discussing this. It appears that powerups can only push you to the cap not over the cap.

Your weapon will show higher but the combat spam and floaty damage does not increase past what the special multiplier x damage cap is.



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CaixCatab
Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:40 am
#3

I vaguely recall hearing that damage pups actually work of your min damage rather than your max damage. How does that compute on your DE-10?



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Natures-Ranger
Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:07 pm
#4




CaixCatab wrote:

I vaguely recall hearing that damage pups actually work of your min damage rather than your max damage. How does that compute on your DE-10?






If im not misstaken the Power Up adds +166 to both Min and Max?



Have a look: Bip's "Breath of the Dark Side" DE-10...

Look at the information on the Power Up above all the normal stats!




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raldurrm
Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:10 pm
#5

Blah, damage pups suck anyways. My de-10 is 957 max 2.3 speed(unmodded) and 60 sac pupped (pre cu). I use sac pups which are mediocre and am looking for better ones. IMO definetly use sac pups With my ubar food combo my action hardly even moves with my 70 sac 1 speed pistol.



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Natures-Ranger
Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:22 pm
#6






raldurrm wrote:
Blah, damage pups suck anyways. My de-10 is 957 max 2.3 speed(unmodded) and 60 sac pupped (pre cu). I use sac pups which are mediocre and am looking for better ones. IMO definetly use sac pups With my ubar food combo my action hardly even moves with my 70 sac 1 speed pistol.




Could you do a check for me? Put on a High Damage Barrel and see if you manage to pass 1150...!




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Alepe
Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:05 pm
#7






Natures-Ranger wrote:





raldurrm wrote:
Blah, damage pups suck anyways. My de-10 is 957 max 2.3 speed(unmodded) and 60 sac pupped (pre cu). I use sac pups which are mediocre and am looking for better ones. IMO definetly use sac pups With my ubar food combo my action hardly even moves with my 70 sac 1 speed pistol.




Could you do a check for me? Put on a High Damage Barrel and see if you manage to pass 1150...!





http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=285747


I hope this helps.





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CaixCatab
Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:47 am
#8






Natures-Ranger wrote:

If im not misstaken the Power Up adds +166 to both Min and Max?

Have a look: Bip's "Breath of the Dark Side" DE-10... Look at the information on the Power Up above all the normal stats!




No, I mean like this: Our example gun has 500-1000 damage. A 30% damage pup is applied. The actual damage added (both to min and max?) is 30% of 500, i.e. 150. So the +166 would be the % of the min damage the pup affects.


Havn't used damage pups that much post-CU though, I tend to go with SAC ones for most situations, so I could just be imagining things.



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Natures-Ranger
Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:04 am
#9






CaixCatab wrote:





Natures-Ranger wrote:

If im not misstaken the Power Up adds +166 to both Min and Max?

Have a look: Bip's "Breath of the Dark Side" DE-10... Look at the information on the Power Up above all the normal stats!




No, I mean like this: Our example gun has 500-1000 damage. A 30% damage pup is applied. The actual damage added (both to min and max?) is 30% of 500, i.e. 150. So the +166 would be the % of the min damage the pup affects.


Havn't used damage pups that much post-CU though, I tend to go with SAC ones for most situations, so I could just be imagining things.





Ahhh... You might be right!
Well, in that case - Cause im almost 100% sure that pre-CU you acually got 33% (33% was max back then) to max damage?? But again, i might just not have checked it quite right back then...

But thanks for all youre info, i was just a bit curious on how things were! One thing tho, i still think my idea with 17% has something to do with it, cause a friend of mine (Carbineer) told me that it was a 17% increase on his Carbine (Even tho Carbines do higher damage)




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Natures-Ranger
Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:06 am
#10




Alepe wrote:





Natures-Ranger wrote:





raldurrm wrote:
Blah, damage pups suck anyways. My de-10 is 957 max 2.3 speed(unmodded) and 60 sac pupped (pre cu). I use sac pups which are mediocre and am looking for better ones. IMO definetly use sac pups With my ubar food combo my action hardly even moves with my 70 sac 1 speed pistol.




Could you do a check for me? Put on a High Damage Barrel and see if you manage to pass 1150...!





http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=285747


I hope this helps.









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Message Edited by Natures-Ranger on 07-26-2005 03:08 PM




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Veins that pump with fear, sucking darkest clear. Leading on your deaths construction! "
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