Pistoleer Archive

This is essentially what I heard while I was waiting for a shuttle on the Gorath server yesterday. After just having missed the shuttle and being forced to wait for another ten stupid minutes, I just started eaves dropping on all of the other conversation going on at the port. While there was the usual mix of talk, one coversation that stuck out was from a pistoleer.

A novice pistoleer (who's name I shall omit) was talking to another pistoleer (a gunslinger i think) about how strong a Jedi should be. The novice honestly seemed shocked and actually annoyed. He started complaining that Jedi would unbalance the game. He actually said that if the jedi could block laser fire, he would never get the chance to knock him down with pistol whip and wouldn't stand a chance.

Now while the more sensible gunslinger was trying to defend the reason for a jedi's power, this novice began saying that he hoped the first few jedi to appear should signal the devs for a needed nerf. Apparently he thought that a class who has to work additionally hard to earn his skills should not be more powerful than someone who has to work only half or even a quarter as hard.

Now this led me to my second observation: Pistoleers are a notoriously easy class. Perhaps the path to becoming a master is long and therefore considered difficult, but when you consider that you will only use something like 90 skill points to become one, you realize that you also have the ability to master another profession and dabble in a third! A pistoleer in my opinion is ridiculously powerful. Not just in the sense that they possess awesome damaging potential, but that they can take on so many other skills to aid them.

Its is nessesary for people, not just pistoleers, to understand that proper balance appears when additional power comes with additional effort. I have seen far too many flames about BH on this board and in this game. Their class must dedicate the majority of their available skill points to a profession that yields powerful benefits. Yet these benefits are constantly critisized. There is no account for the fact that their paultry 33 remaining skill points can't even buy them decent healing skills, or crafting skills or any other type of skill. Equally, there is no accountfor the notoriously difficult bounty missions they must endure to reach master status.Perhaps a BH is more powerful, but at a cost, and people should realize that. Whether it is a jedi or a BH or any other profession that demonstrates such power, people should realize that there is a time and commitment cost to justify it. Only without such costs, can a profession be called unbalanced.

The only exception that I can make for this argument is when a player merely enlists in a powerful profession for a specific branch of that profession's skil. Such as when I have seen pistoleers or carbineers who have obtained the BH status only to pick up their additional weapon benefits. This may be unfair, or perhaps even a legitamate loophole that the devs won't bother with. But to cry nerf for a powerful profession with legitamately difficult requirements is unfair and immature.

To all players who read this. Please take things in stride and consider any complaints you may have from all possible angles before dedicating your energies to them. Thank you.

Furion Irenicus

Master Bio Engineer, Novice Pistoleer, Novice Creature Handler

No one has even opened an FS slot, let alone become a Jedi, and you want them nerfed already?

Grow up.

Porthos,

Please read the thread first. You didn't by the tone of your comment.

Furion

There is already a nerf in place for jedis, if there ever is one. His name is Darth Vader, maybe you have heard of him .

No one has even opened an FS slot, let alone become a Jedi, and you want them nerfed already?

Grow up.

RAWR.. GO GO FOR NOT READING..

hehe

probably ran into two people who don't know starwars at all, or are just generally dense. Plenty of those folk play the game.

SIGH....

This is probably my fault for choosing such a bad title. The point of this post was not about the jedi, or even about bounty hunters, it was about respecting a profession's power when that profession has to endure high costs in time, energy, and skill points.

I DON"T THINK JEDI SHOULD BE NERFED, PLEASE READ THE POST. I SIMPLY BELIEVE THAT PLAYERS SHOULD WEIGH ALL ARGUMENTS BEFORE CRYING NERF.

Furion Irenicus

jedi is supposed to unbalance the game... did you not read they would be taking on large groups of players with little or no trouble... that's how it is in the movies.. they have perma death.. don't complain..

**edit** and regards to your comment about enlisting in different professions.. that is how they designed the game.. where you could get different skills from different professions... you can be as diverse as you want.. if someone works hard for that one carbine box in bh why would anyone be complaining?

Suvall wants us to respect other classes when its obvious he doesnt respect pistoleer..which u can tell by his words describing pistoleers I.E. "notoriously easy" and "rediculously powered"

editand regards to your comment about enlisting in different professions.. that is how they designed the game.. where you could get different skills from different professions... you can be as diverse as you want.. if someone works hard for that one carbine box in bh why would anyone be complaining?

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Wanderhome,

Please recognize that I am not attacking the power of a jedi or the power of a bounty hunter or the power of a pistoleer. I am merely saying that too many people cry nerf for a profession that may be more powerful than them without realizing that there may be a reason why. I also don't care if a pistoleer takes one box from BH, I even said that it could be a loophole that the devs won't bother with. I know that I wouldn't bother with it. I placed this post here in the hopes that it would expand some people's understand and tolerance of other, possibly more powerful classes. Instead, everyone just reads a few lines and then starts flaming the article.

To you and everyone, I am just saying that players should want to nerf each other so much.

Furion

Suvall wants us to respect other classes when its obvious he doesnt respect pistoleer..which u can tell by his words describing pistoleers I.E. "notoriously easy" and "rediculously powered"

Mr. Blackk,

If you will notice, I am a pistoleer myself. I think that the pistol profession is extremely powerful for a class that only requires 93 skill points. The reason I took up this profession is because it is so powerful and because I can still be a master Bio Engineer and creature handler at the same time. Diversity is the key here. I don't just have to be a fighter class like a Bounty Hunter. I can be a fighter, pet owner, and crafter all at once. That indicates awesome power. And In my humble opinion, I have not found becoming a pistoleer so far to be difficult. My apologies if that offends you.

Furion Irenicus

Lord have mercy. Did no one read the guy's post? For what it's worth Suvall I completely agree, and most the replys in this thread really just proved what you were saying (avoiding the word point). People make judgements without fully knowing the situation.

So, yeah BHs should kick butt, even with a pistol. They get the same wep xp we do, 2 more, combat xp, and all the scout xp, of course that one line of pistol is going to be pretty tuff. Pistoleer is there to compliment other classes and be complimented. Go get TKA and Pole-Arm to go with it, you will have defence skills out the ying yang. Go grab Ranger to become far better at PvE. A bounty hunter cannot do these things, a Pistoleer can, and that was his point.

Now a lot of people arn't so ignorant as to call for nerfs, but some are, of course they won't even bother to read this so I'm just gonna stop.